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What to replace Pocket Rockets?

post #1 of 11
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I am retiring my old Pocket Rockets and I'm wondering what to get to replace them. Looking for something a bit firmer and a bit narrower, but still fun & forgiving. I'm an upper intermediate skier, ski mostly blues and like a bit of fresh powder when I can find it. I really liked the PR for spring slush. Would welcome any ideas from former PR fans who have found something better.

post #2 of 11

Hi GS,

 

A little more info please. How much do you weight? What size PR were you using?

 

Michael

post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 

Hey Wildcat,

 

I am 6 ft, 170 lb, and I have the PR in the 175 cm length. Looking for a ski that is beefier than the Pocket Rocket but will still be forgiving and easy to handle. I picked up the Dynastar Big Trouble (176) on sale last season and have been going back and forth between the two. The BT has a medium flex that makes it lively but the 93mm width makes for slow handling on the groomers. The PR is sweet in powder but gets tossed around in wet, heavy snow, which we get a lot of out here on the west coast. I thought maybe the K2 Extreme would be a good choice as it has a 85mm waist and a stiffer flex. Also considering the Rossi Phantom SC80.

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Originally Posted by gimmesnow View Post

 

Hey Wildcat,

 

I am 6 ft, 170 lb, and I have the PR in the 175 cm length. Looking for a ski that is beefier than the Pocket Rocket but will still be forgiving and easy to handle. I picked up the Dynastar Big Trouble (176) on sale last season and have been going back and forth between the two. The BT has a medium flex that makes it lively but the 93mm width makes for slow handling on the groomers. The PR is sweet in powder but gets tossed around in wet, heavy snow, which we get a lot of out here on the west coast. I thought maybe the K2 Extreme would be a good choice as it has a 85mm waist and a stiffer flex. Also considering the Rossi Phantom SC80.


The PR was well loved for its soft flex and twin tips. The Salomon Lord is its spiritual replacement, its stiffer and has a wood core but is more soft snow oriented than other midfats.

 

Since you have the Big Trouble for new-snow days, how about a carving midfat for no-new-snow days?

 

Michael

post #5 of 11
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Any suggestions for a "carving midfat"?

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Any suggestions for a "carving midfat"?


 

Dynastar 8000, Elan 78ti, 82ti, Blizzard 8.1, Head Monster 78 or 82.

 

These are all beefy enough for wet snow without demanding 100% skill or effort from the skier.

 

Michael

post #7 of 11

I'm 185  lbs. and switched from the original pocket rockets 185 to 183 Gotamas. The Gotamas perform better in all aspects of skiing...groomed or powder.

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I demoed the Elan 82ti in 178cm at Grouse Mountain. Conditions were not great, no new snow, mostly scraped off refrozen snow. I haven't been on an Elan in years, found I couldn't really get a feel for the ski, suspect I may have done better on a shorter length. It felt like it needed speed to get into a carve, but  conditions were not good for carving. I then switched over to the Rossi Phantom SC80 in a 175cm. A completely different feel from the Elan - light, forgiving, easy to handle, willing to do just about anything I wanted, almost an intuitive feel. Smooth with a lot of shape that makes it an easy turner. Not a beefy ski, so it felt like it wouldn't handle high speed in rough conditions, but for the places I normally ski it should do just fine. Coming off the Pocket Rocket, the 80mm waist felt very skinny. One down side is a lack of pop coming out of turns on the groomed, but again conditions were not good that day.

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Originally Posted by WILDCAT View Post

 


 


The PR was well loved for its soft flex and twin tips. The Salomon Lord is its spiritual replacement, its stiffer and has a wood core but is more soft snow oriented than other midfats.

 

Since you have the Big Trouble for new-snow days, how about a carving midfat for no-new-snow days?

 

Michael

I agree with Michael's thinking in terms of getting something that compliments rather than overlaps with the BTs...with this in mind, I would think about getting a versatile carver such as the Dynastar Contact Ltd ('08, C-11 '07 & C-10 '09).  Well reviewed ski and good deals around which is why I just picked up a pair...I also own 186 cm Fischer MIsfits (aka Atua) which ski very similar to, but better than the 185 cm PRs I swapped out with a buddy on a run last year... 
 

post #10 of 11

You could go something that was completely a "carving" ski but there would undoubtably be days where you brought that ski, and wished you had your Big Troubles.  I thinking getting something, in a freeride or hybrid category for example a Volkl AC4, or a Atomic Nomad, or the Head Monster 82, have something that does everything, reasonably, although the big troubles can be used for that, get something more versatile, maybe even high 70's underfoot, that does shorter turns and bumps better than your BT's.

post #11 of 11

I don't know anyone who owns Legend 8000s and doesn't like them a lot.

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