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I hope I can get some feedback and help from the many knowledgeable racing coaches and parents who read this board. Please allow be a little background concerning my Daughter. She's an 8 yr. old J6. Athletically she has always been a standout in whatever sport she participates in, hockey, soccer, baseball etc. She is also bigger that most boys and girls her age which probably accounts for much of her success. She's 4' 5" & 78 lbs. Last fall she wanted to join the local ski racing team even though she had never skied before. BTW, I skied years ago (New England) recreationally, so my knowledge of ski racing is ZERO! Nevertheless, I picked up a pair of Atomic Race 7 (110) skis for her and she skied for the first time in mid December. She loved it from the first minute and picked it up rather quickly. Perhaps all the hockey (skating) helped her with understanding edges. Anyway, she won her first J6 race two weeks later and never finished lower than 4th all season (but for 1 DQ). She won the overall (J6) title as well as her teams overall trophy for most points in a season. It's all been a bit overwhelming. She did all of this on old skis, and boots that are too big for her. I would like to get her (new) equipment that is best suited too her. I read all I can, about junior equipment, but I still feel a bit clueless. She has grown to be a huge Lindsey Vonn fan, so right now she's a bit bias towards Rossi since that's what Lindsey has. I've been considering their RSX and also looking into Dynastar. Her coaches like Atomic and Vokel because they're tied into the local ski shop and that's what they carry. Which is probably great stuff but I would like to narrow it down starting with all brands. I would enjoy reading any and all input you have to give. Thanks.

 

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Sounds like you have a prodigy on your hands!

My 9 year old has been asking about ski racing, and I've been trying to learn more myself. I could be wrong, but I think that the Atomic Race 7 is really an all mountain ski that just has race graphics...Fischer does the same thing with their Race Jr ski, the distributor here told me that it's just the junior Heat ski with a different topsheet. I ended up buying my daughter the Fischer Competition Jr, which was described as a beginner "dual" race ski, OK for SL and GS (but not optimal for either). I don't believe that it has any metal sheets in it, although it is ribbed, I assume for stiffness.

The shop at my usual hill (Sport Thoma at Waterville Valley, NH) had what looked like a really nice deal on Volkl Racetiger and Nordica Dobermann GS and SL jr race skis, $300 for either with a Marker 10.0 (?) binding ($200 for just the skis). I was tempted, but thought that they would just be too much ski for her after getting some help here and doing some other research. I believe that all these skis have metal sheets for super stiffness. Given that your daughter has already been racing, maybe she might be ready for skis like this?? I know nothing about racing and am a fairly novice skier myself...I do know that my daughter is interested in trying new things now that she can handle most of what our home mountain can throw at her, although I'd like to keep her focused on skiing all that terrain WELL. She has twin tips for messing around in the terrain park, so I thought having starter race skis would help her figure out which area she would like to concentrate in, if either. There's always moguls and glades to master, too, although she's already a lot better in either of those than me.

 

I will say that Fischer, Nordica, and Volkl seem to be popular with the racers I see, although a lot of other brands are common at the races. I would try to get guidance from some of the real experts here, but 110cm sounds a bit short to me for for your daughter's size...I wonder if something like a 130 might be better for a SL or dual ski. What type of race does she usually run?

Best of luck to you, and congratulations to your daughter on her success!

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I ended up buying my daughter the Fischer Competition Jr, which was described as a beginner "dual" race ski, OK for SL and GS (but not optimal for either). I don't believe that it has any metal sheets in it, although it is ribbed, I assume for stiffness.

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The shop at my usual hill (Sport Thoma at Waterville Valley, NH) had what looked like a really nice deal on Volkl Racetiger and Nordica Dobermann GS and SL jr race skis, $300 for either with a Marker 10.0 (?) binding ($200 for just the skis). I was tempted, but thought that they would just be too much ski for her after getting some help here and doing some other research. I believe that all these skis have metal sheets for super stiffness.

Virtus_Probi, good call on the Competition. smsmesser, that is one of the many dual event skis that I was referring to in the other thread.

 

As for metal, I don't think there is any in any of the duals and shorter race stocks. Some brands do start sandwiching metal in their longer jr. race skis. I know that is a fact with the Nordicas when I noticed metal being shaved off when I skived the 153cm this year versus I didn't see any with the 143cm previously.

post #4 of 7

Glad to hear your daughter is getting involved in racing.

 

I always recommend parents talk with the child's coach before purchasing equipment. I would also suggest you wait until the fall...kids do grow. Many programs have a fit day in the fall where the reps come in and help parents and coaches find the right size in both boots and skis. If she will be a J4 next year, there are standards for that age group and those tend to change a little each year. Those changes are usually announced after the spring meetings.

 

BTW, Rossi makes great junior race equipment.

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Virtus_Probi, good call on the Competition. smsmesser, that is one of the many dual event skis that I was referring to in the other thread.

 

As for metal, I don't think there is any in any of the duals and shorter race stocks. Some brands do start sandwiching metal in their longer jr. race skis. I know that is a fact with the Nordicas when I noticed metal being shaved off when I skived the 153cm this year versus I didn't see any with the 143cm previously.

Thanks again for your previous advice, chanwmr. My daughter really liked the Fischers...they seemed to "bite" quite a bit more than her twin tips and even spun her around a couple times when she really put the brakes on. Never happened at a critical time, luckily, and she learned to respect the holding power they had. She really seemed to have fun tooling through a few practice courses, and she's even more excited about doing some kind of racing next season.

Thanks for correcting me on the metal sheets...I should probably leave further input on this thread to people who know what they're talking about!!

 

Here's a link to the earlier thread I started...

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/81914/sl-race-skis-for-a-youngster

 

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Thanks for the input. All very interesting and helpful. Still looking for info on the Dynastar Omeglass

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Thanks for the input. All very interesting and helpful. Still looking for info on the Dynastar Omeglass

 

My kids don't ski on the Dynastars but I've heard that the Omeglass (a SL oriented ski that doubles up as a dual event) is one of the best race development skis around for a young kid.

 

BTW, please combine your two threads into one, jumping back and forth between them makes my head spin.

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