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post #61 of 69
I suggest you take out a subscription to realskiers/expertskiers; the reviews go back a few years and you may be able to find a number of skis with your preferred turn radius and performance level.  Then you just have to find one of them on sale.
post #62 of 69
Well Newfydog, I suppose there is must be no hardpack where you ski.  Take a SL ski and ski a 45 mph Long radius arc, then try it with a SG or even GS ski.  You can feel the difference.  

It is not that hard to visualize either.  Take an arc of small radius and move it around a circle of larger radius.  The farther you go from the centre of the small arc, the more the direction of motion (parallel/tangent to the circle) diverges from the direction that is parallel to the small arc. 
post #63 of 69
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Originally Posted by skiut420 View Post

Anything under 80ish is just too thin these days.


'these days' ?  

Snow has changed it's physical properties over time and 80+ skis are now required gear?
post #64 of 69
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Originally Posted by MojoMan View Post
'these days' ?  

Snow has changed it's physical properties over time and 80+ skis are now required gear?
 

I tried to avoid numbers when I said an ex- racer probably doesn't want too fat of a ski.

"these days", I use eight pairs skis which range from 63 to 120mm under the foot.  I seldom use the fatter ones.  The 84 mm ski is the fattest I'll use for anything days with less than 80% powder.  50-50 Powder/ groomed I'm on skis in the 70's to low 80's and if no new snow is out there, 60 something.  My preferences, "these days".
post #65 of 69
Well, figured I;d give an update on my quest for modernization (always worth a good giggle when a chuckle head flounders around 'doin it my way' ....)

Part of what youz guyz said definitely applies. After my test' of the plain vanilla 181 K2 Axis, I went back to the guy with the 188 Axis Pros and lo-and-behold, he still had em. I made an offer, he gladly accepted. So for less than the price of a small hill discounted lift ticket, I had another 'experimental'.
Took em up to Mtn High a couple days back. Conditions were good, but a bit harder. I heard 'icy' under the breath of a lot of boardheads out there, but it was really quite good. They did have the East Mtn open with pretty good cover for some rippin GS stuff.
Well, the Axis Pros, in 188, prefer some solid speed. They did turn nicely, but I can imagine that they'd be as tough to muscle through soft and deep as my old 205s. Man, they did like to rip the big fast turns like nobodies' business. What a hoot!
So, great ski, a keeper, but mainly for those really 'Eastern' condition days when there's not much terrain and rippin non-stops are the order of the day. So the Axis Pro stays the Plain Vanilla Axis goes...
So now I'm thinking I really need to consider a 'new' (within the last 2 seasons) style modern one quiver type ski.
78 to 84 waist, 175 to 178 ???
Head Monster, K2 Recon, Volkl AC 30, Fischer Cold Heat, Rossi 'something' ..., others?
I'm not lookin for a fullon hard charger, more something which won;t let you down when you do charge the hill, but is also a comfort cruiser. But it gotta be able to carve a nice turn on a hard surface. I don;t think I can put up with a 'slider'.
There's a Nordica Afterburner available locally , last year leftover, in 178, that's a really great price.
So I'm gonna do one more 'test' day at Mtn High before my 3 days up at Mammoth in 2 weeks. By then I hope to have that 'New' ski ready to go...
Guyz, I know it really hard to retrain an 'old horse'; but I'm slowly comin around...
post #66 of 69
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

I suggest you take out a subscription to realskiers/expertskiers; the reviews go back a few years and you may be able to find a number of skis with your preferred turn radius and performance level.  Then you just have to find one of them on sale.
Thanks, I chec'd it out, I'm thinkin about it...
I guess it might have 20 bucks worth of readin...
post #67 of 69
Check out www.levelninesports.com
They have alot of good deals, (all of these are new)
Head Blackjack 80 Twin/Tip Park/Powder Skis 
Sizes: 154, 163, 172, 181
A few years ago, Head introduced the Mojo 80, and it was such a good ski, that it keeps getting released under new names and graphics, hence the Black ...
 $549.00  $299.00

 Head Monster iM 78 RF Skis 183cm 
The Monster 78 wants to ski fast. With a metal topsheet and sidewall construction this ski is not for a relaxing ride. Carve hard at top speeds and ...
 $850.00  $299.00 
 

 Liberty Hazmat Twin Tip Powder Skis 
Sizes: 164, 186
A wide all mountain ski, the Hazmat has a forgiving flex to absorb bumpy terrain, but stiff underfoot to not wash out on icy slopes. Upper intermediate ...
 $649.00  $299.00 
(Save 53%

 Head Supermojo 103 Team Skis 
Sizes: 183, 193
The Supermojo 103 is a very serious ski. It is designed for speed, speed and more speed, preferably accompanied by a lot of snow. This ski will blast ...
 $1150.00  $319.00-349.00
Fischer RX Big Heat Skis w/ Z13 Flowflex Bindings 
Sizes: 174, 184
This is like a carving ski on steroids. This has the same sidecut as an average ski but with a big frame. Great for soft snow or ice this ski is built ...
 $1340.00  $379.00 
 

And the orgininal poster might want to consider something like
a $49 used ski with mounted tyrolia 100 bindings included from www galacticsnowsports.com
Manufacturer: K2
Model: Freedom
Dimensions: 103/70/93
Bindings: Marker M2.5 DIN 2.5-9.5
Terrain: All Mountain
Target skier: Intermediate
Condition: Used
Base rating: 3 (ratings)
Bindings rating: 3 (ratings)
Choose Length: 136cm146cm167cm174cm
 
( I have never bought skis from galactic, but got some dalbelos for $60 that I was very happy with, and have gotten 2 pairs of new skis from level 9, and they were sent fast, were brand new, and had bindings mounted included in the good price)

PS: to the original poster, are you sure you dont want to go up to like 90 ?

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Originally Posted by makoona View Post

I'm hoping the iM 78's might come up on tramdock.

 

What do you think about L8K's vs watea 84's?

post #68 of 69
Quote:
Originally Posted by steveys View Post

Check out www.levelninesports.com
They have alot of good deals, (all of these are new)

galacticsnowsports.com
 

Big thanks for the tips and taking the time to note some good choices!
Much appreciated!
I will look thru both sites and see what might fit my needs...
Definitely some great references for anyone on a tight budget!
post #69 of 69
Thread Starter 
To continue this great thread, keeping with the original idea. I now have my iM78's and totally love them for everything but deep powder where they tend to dive if I'm not way back on them, and they're really hooky down in heavier powder (prob my poor technique and I could adjust for this with practice)...     However, I'm thinking a dedicated ski for the days after a big dump might be a good idea. I've decided against the super fat 110.  So, what would be some mid 90 skis for fresh powder and soft cut up powder, soft crud, chutes and trees filled with new snow.
Lots of trees and tight chutes at Mammoth so a ski that is more than just a powder plank for surfing open bowls would be nice.
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