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post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 

Don't remember the trail name, it's at Jay. 


Goal was zipperline bumps, or at least a close approximation of it.  Soft snow.  Fischer RX-8's, surprisingly a decent bump ski. 



 edit:  make sure to turn up the volume so you can hear bushwacker panting heavy!

Edited by PaSucks - 3/13/2009 at 01:46 am
post #2 of 6

It might be my computer...but I can't get your video to play?!?

post #3 of 6

Surpricingly good bump skiing . Consider yourself a pro. You should be handing out pointers not asking for them. Anyway, as you say you are skiing the zipper line and you are keeping fearly good speed and your rhythm is solid. I see excellent flexing and extending and virtually no head up and down moving as well as no side to side moving. Your upper body faces down the hill, your stance is close and your feet are moving. It takes great skills to do what you are doing.


One thing that you do differently to pro bumpskiers that I would like to point out to you is your pole plant. Its not a big deal but bump skiers use very short poles and they plant them forward with a snap of the wrist. I dont like this kind of poleplant myselfe but thats what the pros are doing. I would be planting more like you are now. But think about it.


The only gripes I have with your skiing apart from the fact that I was not there myselfe (no bump skiing for me this year) is that as your skis run out to one side your upper body counter reacts and it looks like you are swinging from side to side. Looks like crasing into the bumps has too much impact on your upper body and you anticipate it, you prepare. Maybe you are trying to turn your skis too arressively and you are not using the bumps to their full potential. You are quick at turning your feet but you slide much sideways. More rounded turns.


Flex and extend more and and better use of the bumps. Dont let the pole plant pull your arm too far back. All in all very good bump skiing. Congrats.

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Originally Posted by Liam View Post


It might be my computer...but I can't get your video to play?!?

Must be your computer. I see it perfectly well.

post #5 of 6

PAs not that bad,


Goal accomplished! There's a lot good things to see in this clip. I especially like the shock absorber like punch of the skis back onto the snow surface over many of these bumps. I also like how the feet get outside of shoulder width.


People tend to think that the zipper line is just one line. When you can see a rut that shows a path for rhythmic turns, the myth gets perpetuated. But even within this line, there are possible variations for taking the inside of the rut or the outside. Depending on snow conditions, your bumpage may vary. Most zipper lines aren't perfect either. Every now and then there will be problems like big holes or long gaps between 2 bumps. You need to spot these beasties in advance and have a plan for dealing with them, or else...


Or else you get what you get in the last turn before the camera. (Yes - ok - part of the problem is that the fat assed camera man is in the way - but there is a similar turn 3 or 4 back and this one is just easier to see.) There's a huge bend at the waist as you encounter what appears to be a slightly deeper than average rut. By the time you hit it, there's not much else to do and you do come out of it just fine. With your upper body taking a straight line path down the fall line this is a train wreck waiting to happen. How to avoid it? Get on another track! Look at the exit path coming off the previous mogul. Your skis are not nearly as much across the fall line as they are on the next turn when you start to come out of the hole. From here, your feet need to go down to maintain snow contact instead of getting out to the side. And then you have to pivot/skid into the hole and you are toast. Where are the other tracks?


1) Adjust the path of the upper body to skiers right. Cut off the previous turn early, turn on the extreme inside of the rut/ back side of the previous mogul and come out through the same spot your skis are in right where your waist is bent. This is like throwing in an extra half turn than skarving the end down the backside to make up the difference back into rhythm. Track 1b is keeping the same turn shape but shifting it out of the rut to the right starting with the previous turn. So you're either shifting the line a 1/2 turn right or left or the rhythm a 1/2 turn early.


2) Hold the previous turn long. Get the skis more across the fall line and get the feet to make contact with the bump on skiers left (not visible) so that you can get to higher downhill side of the deep rut without having to go through the bottom (i.e. go around the hole the other way).


3) Wayne Wong it! Where your legs are retracted fully exiting the previous bump, stall the upper body and shoot the legs forward so that you can horizontally absorb the hole.


4) Hop across it! Come over the top of the previous mogul with your upper body ahead of the skis, then leap the skis form the back of the previous mogul to the face of the next one.


All of these are trivial little variations. But that's where you go next from this level of skiing.


As a side note, you have a cosmetic habit with your left hand coming in front of the body. You're right hand has the same movement but not as extreme. We'd like to see the hands in the same lateral position instead of signing inside and out and then driving forward after the pole touch. With normal sized poles and pole touches occurring in a retracted position, it's hard to do this. Try moving your pole touches to the back side of the bump.

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I agree that my pole plants would be better with shorter poles.  If I skied zipperline all day like I did when I was 19, I'd be using much shorter poles.  I may switch anyways, those things are just too long in general.

Edited by PaSucks - 3/13/2009 at 09:27 pm
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