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 I ordered a pair of 2009 Elan 888s from a shop on the West Coast.  They just arrived...what a nice ski!...

Small problem-the shop's price sticker on the ski says the year 2008, but the invoice says 2009.  I know the ski is the same whichever model year it is, but I've read here that the center line for binding mounting has been moved back on the new model.  No shop around here has this ski for me to compare, and I want to make sure to mount the bindings on the "new" line...anybody have exact measurements for the new line (how far from tip/tail) so I can see if this ski has the new (corrected) line or the old one? 

...Also, any binding suggestions for a 200lb fairly agressive level 7/8 skier? Do I have to go with a wider binding?

...While your reading this, what's your take on using this ski in Utah in early April over a softer ski, such as the Scott Mission or Watea 84.  ( Most likely an equal mix of on/off trail)

 

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

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Originally Posted by Mr. G View Post

 

 I ordered a pair of 2009 Elan 888s from a shop on the West Coast.  They just arrived...what a nice ski!...

Small problem-the shop's price sticker on the ski says the year 2008, but the invoice says 2009.  I know the ski is the same whichever model year it is, but I've read here that the center line for binding mounting has been moved back on the new model.  No shop around here has this ski for me to compare, and I want to make sure to mount the bindings on the "new" line...anybody have exact measurements for the new line (how far from tip/tail) so I can see if this ski has the new (corrected) line or the old one? 

...Also, any binding suggestions for a 200lb fairly agressive level 7/8 skier? Do I have to go with a wider binding?

...While your reading this, what's your take on using this ski in Utah in early April over a softer ski, such as the Scott Mission or Watea 84.  ( Most likely an equal mix of on/off trail)

 

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

I don't recall that being an issue on 888's more so on the 999's. 

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2009's are 1cm back of the 2008's on a 177cm length.  I mounted my 2008's 1.5cm back after playing around with a Railflex a bunch.  Even the recommended 2009 line is around 1.5cm forward of that on a Blizzard Magnum 8.7 174cm when the shorter running surface is accounted for, so obviously there is some room for interpretation there. I would mount the 2008's back a minimum of 1cm, further back if you are a good skier, but I hate skis with too little tip: you can't drive the ski as well as you can with a further rearward mount point.

 

 

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 Thanks for the clarification Dawg. Now back to the original post, forget the sticker on the ski, you need more so to look at the production date in the serial number. Sometimes there are running changes when it comes to mounting points and such. Is it a square tail or a round tail? Measure the center mark from the tail and Dawg or someone with a 09 888 could tell you where the center is. 

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...square tail (slightly upturned)

...serial number begins with 2007

...mid-line to edge of tail in 32 inches/81.28 cm

 

Would a railflex system be a good binding for this ski?

 

Thanks again.

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I would mount the 2008's back a minimum of 1cm, further back if you are a good skier, but I hate skis with too little tip: you can't drive the ski as well as you can with a further rearward mount point.


 

Hmmm, I've always felt it was the other way around (up to a point - law of diminishing returns).  If you consider how much pressure you're able to apply to the forward contact point of the ski on the snow, the longer your tip length (ahead of your BoF) the less pressure you'll actually be able to apply (it's just physics due to the length and edge pressure distribution).  It might "feel" like you're able to drive harder forward, but in reality you're actually getting less edge pressure into the snow.  Of course in skiing if you take this too far (forward mount) you'll end up going over the handlebars rather easily and I think this may be more of what you're referring to.

 

In the end I believe (and I'm sure everyone is tired of hearing it from me) that there is a "sweet spot" for a mounting position and unless your physical build is what the ski manufacturer considers average then their "suggested" mount point doesn't mean squat for you.  BoF mount point all the way baby.

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2009's are 1cm back of the 2008's on a 177cm length.  

 

 

Any idea what would be the offset on 185s?

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