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Is this "new school" skiing? (youtube movie)

post #1 of 24
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gp-d4DJeGQ

 

Hello,

 

Is the technique used in this film (see link above) the new school skiing?

 

Which kind of ski's are most suited for this technique? Ik now use Fischer RX8 170cm. Will Atomic SX or SL ski's be better?

 

Thanks.

 

Robert

 

 

post #2 of 24


 

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Originally Posted by Robertv1979 View Post

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gp-d4DJeGQ

 

Hello,

 

Is the technique used in this film (see link above) the new school skiing?

 

Which kind of ski's are most suited for this technique? Ik now use Fischer RX8 170cm. Will Atomic SX or SL ski's be better?

 

Thanks.

 

Robert

 

 

The RX8 is ideal for short carved turns. Easy to use also.
 

 

Michael

post #3 of 24

I thought this was 'new school' skiing?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmC9zoe7caA 

post #4 of 24

 

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Originally Posted by Robertv1979 View Post

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Is the technique used in this film (see link above) the new school skiing?

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That YouTube video was definitely "old school" skiing. "New school" generally refers to the baggy panted, terrain parking, short poled, switch riding, grab-spinning style found in the X-Games.

post #5 of 24

New school generally means park stuff or huge SG-esque turns in powder to me.

 

Anyway, for short turns like that any piste ski with a short turn radius should do the job. The SX series has 16m radius and the SL 12m radius so I'd pick the SLs for quick slalom turns - it's what they are made to do.

post #6 of 24

IMO, that's way to much work, way to much upper body movement, poles are way to long.

 

But what do I know...

post #7 of 24

That link hurt my eyes.

post #8 of 24

 new school? hellz no. thats like a messed up version of the awesome, smooth old school with a guy who appers to be moving his upper body so much that some would think he was having a cardiac arrest 

post #9 of 24

Roberrt1979, what you have here, I don't care what anyone else says, is good skiing, good basic technique and good drills for learning to carve short turns.  Old school, new school, bah, changes every 4 years when the next fad comes out or the demo teams meet up and decide they all like what Austria was doing (or what ever country) and copy it.

 

GS turns in powder is new school???  That was the turn of choice in the 80's.  It was cool to whip down the hill doing super fast GS turns then.  In the 90's....If you couldn't slalom your way down in much like these only on long old style skis, not the short shaped skis they're wearing in your video, you were out of it, and now it's terrain parks.

 

Good skiing is good skiing, they don't  have extreme upper body movement (though they appear to be exaggerating motion for visual affect of the drill), they do show a good range of leg motion and the basic skills needed to do a short slalom type turn.  If you learn the basics, tomorrow's old school and new  school will come to you easily with a little tweaking and you'll always be a good skier.

 

As far as calling them old school, well, they're not on long skis, they were World cup winners and placers in 2000, and they ski on shaped skis, I'd say they're not too out of date, and the know how to ski.  They are showing some motion that appears up and down and then convert it to a more angulated motion as they speed up.  This would be speed of travel on a flat hill while trying to demononstrate the full range of motion needed to you (imo).  Good skiers anyhow. 

post #10 of 24

 

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Originally Posted by Robertv1979 View Post

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gp-d4DJeGQ

 

Hello,

 

Is the technique used in this film (see link above) the new school skiing?

 

Which kind of ski's are most suited for this technique? Ik now use Fischer RX8 170cm. Will Atomic SX or SL ski's be better?

 

Thanks.

 

Robert

 

 

 

New or old, it is a slalom technique... the best suited ski to make these turns would be a slalom ski.  :)

 

This is what I consider "new school" skiing, although I think most would first think park...

 

**EDIT apparently the old way to imbed youtube videos doesn't work, so here's the link as I can't be bothered to look up the new way to embed stuff.  :)

www.youtube.com/watch

post #11 of 24

its pretty shit skiing in alot of ways.

 

 

post #12 of 24

When I see 90 % or heck, even 60% of the skiers (young or old), sking like that, I'll consider it new school. until then, skiing takes place on the slopes of ski hills for most people.  More then one post here has shown that most people actually ski on the runs most days they're skiing.

 

  That (JayPowHound's video) is an adventure vacation or a once in a life time, twice in a life time opportunity for most.  Not the way they get to go ski 25+days a year.  I really like the look of the wing suits and parachutes when cliff jumping with skis, but I don't expect to see the average joe out there doing it either.  The average joe has not taken up sky diving for thrills (and it's been around a long time now and is cheaper then skiing, all costs considered).  My brother snow kites and water kites, that's pretty radical stuff, but I don't see lots of people picking it up, and it's only the cost of the kite, put on your skis (better be old school straight skis), and let the kite drag you across the snow covered lake in 25mph+ winds. 

 

There's lots of adrenaline rush sports to get your kicks, but the fact that everyone ooohs and ahhhs over something doesn't make it main stream and available to the average joe.  It shouldn't preclude the average joe from learning to better themselves at what they do because someone thinks they should do something else.


Edited by lady_Salina - 3/14/2009 at 01:52 am
post #13 of 24

 

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its pretty shit skiing in alot of ways.

 

 

 

That's pretty decent skiing in alot of ways too, where is this my way or the high way attitude in skiing here coming from?  You constantly complain that the pSIA has too narrow of focus, but anyone that isn't doing it your way is shit? Oldschool?  Not good enough?  You win a world cup race in the past 10 years?

 

Those two skiers are better then 95% plus of what you see on the hill, nothing wrong with skiing like them.  I'm not saying they don't have any issues one might be able to improve on, but they are good skiers.   I'm sure , as you just came off your level 3's there were numerous issues with you skiing that were pointed out to you.  Does that make you a shit skier?  I doubt it.  I guess i'm moody tonight.  Just seems to me people here keep jumping on the high horse and picking apart things that just aren't asking to be picked apart.  Send a video of yourself doing some slalom drills to the OP here and explain why it's new school skiing and why he should do it that way.  Then half the board will pick you apart too.

post #14 of 24

 

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That's pretty decent skiing in alot of ways too, where is this my way or the high way attitude in skiing here coming from?  You constantly complain that the pSIA has too narrow of focus, but anyone that isn't doing it your way is shit? Oldschool?  Not good enough?  You win a world cup race in the past 10 years?

 

Those two skiers are better then 95% plus of what you see on the hill, nothing wrong with skiing like them.  I'm not saying they don't have any issues one might be able to improve on, but they are good skiers.   I'm sure , as you just came off your level 3's there were numerous issues with you skiing that were pointed out to you.  Does that make you a shit skier?  I doubt it.  I guess i'm moody tonight.  Just seems to me people here keep jumping on the high horse and picking apart things that just aren't asking to be picked apart.  Send a video of yourself doing some slalom drills to the OP here and explain why it's new school skiing and why he should do it that way.  Then half the board will pick you apart too.

 

my way? yeah may personal way is to hack though anything with aggresion and athletism. My biggest strenght and weakness is the fact I am too comfortable on skis at this point in time.

 

as for thier skiing the flexion and extentsion movements are grossly mistimed and pretty unnessacry.

 

The ckick is better at knee angulation than I am! I hope you get the joke because its not really a good thing. also the stance width in both skier is too wide and contrived.

 

you right most people on the hill cant ski like these folk but its still doenst mean people should strive to ski like them.

 

 

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The ckick is better at knee angulation than I am!


 

No way,,, she can only do it with 1 knee at a time!  

 

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No way,,, she can only do it with 1 knee at a time!  

 

I dunno... only my right knee hurts after watching her.
 

 

I got to watch Christian Mayer train at Mammoth about 11 yrs ago.  At the time he was just making the switch from straight skis to shaped & was nearing the end of his illustrious career.  There was also a young kid named Benni just preparing for his first year on the WC.  If I were to compare the 2, I would say that Mayer was the "old school" guy & Raich the "new school".

 

JF

post #18 of 24

too many turns. tired just watching.

 

what is knee angulation? is that the same as a-framing?

post #19 of 24

It's a demonstration/teaching video, of course they'd exaggerate the movements. 

post #20 of 24

Nah - that is just so oldSchool - you want new school - s'alright now

Looks a bit like this (still):

no polesor this (carving)

or, really starting to get it: and, then

getting serious: or, maybe even

turning pro:

But, for most of us, just Swooping and Grooving will suffice

I've been skiing poles free for 15 years and getting more and more horizontal - it wasn't until the last three years that I've found kindred spirits and now there are tens of thousands - Join us.

Send me a PM if you want to play at Abasin, Vail, Beaver Creek, Breck, Keystone or wherever.

Light(in the)Head

 

 

post #21 of 24

This is what I think of as being new school skiing.

 

No matter what you think of him as a person, his skiing is amazing.

 

post #22 of 24


 

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Originally Posted by karpiel View Post

 

This is what I think of as being new school skiing.

 

No matter what you think of him as a person, his skiing is amazing.

 

Fun stuff!

I would say this Tanner Hall video is more about "air school" than "new school skiing".  Maybe with the equipment I could call it new school sliding

It sure looks fun!
 

JF

post #23 of 24

This whole thread could be retitled "Back to school Skiing"

 

Instructional video.....ski indoors and bob like a rabbit

 

Carving.....squat on your inside ski

 

Tanner....waste some good powder riding the tails and  jumping over something for pictures

 

 

aaaack!

post #24 of 24

You just can't teach an old dog new tricks. woof!
 

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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post

 

This whole thread could be retitled "Back to school Skiing"

 

Instructional video.....ski indoors and bob like a rabbit

 

Carving.....squat on your inside ski

 

Tanner....waste some good powder riding the tails and  jumping over something for pictures

 

 

aaaack!


 

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