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Dynastar Contact w/ PX 12 Fluid vs PX 12 ti plate

post #1 of 11
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Can get a good price on the '07-08 Contact Ltd w/ the PX 12 ti binding on a titanal plate or the '08-09 Contact 10 w/ PX 12 fluid.

 

Been told they are the same ski other than graphics and binding/plate, but not sure which is better.  I know the Ti should be lighter, but don't know much about the differences in the plates/tracks.  Any thoughts?

post #2 of 11

The weight is the difference. It's an easy ski, very versatile and forgiving, But not very stable at high speed(07-08) - I skied on it the entire season last winter. You can make it stable by bending the ski prolerly.

 

This year skis is heavier making it more stable and better edge grip. Just tried it at the begining of the season and like it. Thought, I ski regularly on the 4X4 which is a far better ski.

 

If you have a budget resctirction, just buy the cheaper one.


Edited by kross0ver - 3/11/2009 at 01:23 am
post #3 of 11

I owned the 11 (same as Ltd, diff graphic/name) with the Ti binding, agree with kross0ver's comments. Though if you're a lighter skier or like moderate speeds, bumps, light frontside pow or soft crud, you'll probably prefer the Ltd over the 4x4.  

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Thanks for the input...I live in Summit, CO, 185 lbs and hope to be a level 8 after I get back from my November ACL replacement/meniscus trim.  I have other skis (currently Watea 84, Misfit & P4) for powder/soft snow and was planning on using this for spring and hard snow conditions.  I think I ski at moderate speeds for an advanced skier and hope to use this ski in the bumps some of the time if my knee feels up to it next year.

 

I can get the '08-09 Contact 10 w/ PX 12 fluid or the '07-08 Contact Ltd w/ PX 12 Ti for the exact same price (about $200 less than the 4 x 4).  Like the graphics better on this years ski, but think I prefer the lighter Ti (although I do not really know the difference between the Ti and regular PX 12).  I know what the concensus on Epic is, but the seller was not 100% sure if this years C-10 was last years C-10 or Ltd.


Edited by MEfree30 - 3/10/2009 at 07:50 pm
post #5 of 11

I really suggest the Contact Ltd or 10 (08-09) if you have a reconstrusted knee. As the 4x4 is not forgiving, slower edge to edge (requires fast feet and mobility to switch effeciently) and more physically demanding to ski.

 

 

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I really suggest the Contact Ltd or 10 (08-09) if you have a reconstrusted knee. 

 

 

What he said. Except spelled "reconstructed." 

post #7 of 11
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Thanks to both of you...I might have spelled it recontrusted as I think my next step will be to trust my new ACL enough to hit the slopes...I expect to be spending more time on piste for a while, so I think the Ltd will be a good choice...leaning to towards the '07-08 with the lighter (Ti) binding as opposed to the '08-09 for the same price with the standard PX 12 fluid binding but I really don't know how much difference that makes. 

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Originally Posted by kross0ver View Post

 

The weight is the difference. It's an easy ski, very versatile and forgiving, But not very stable at high speed(07-08) - I skied on it the entire season last winter. You can make it stable by bending the ski prolerly.

 

This year skis is heavier making it more stable and better edge grip. Just tried it at the begining of the season and like it. Thought, I ski regularly on the 4X4 which is a far better ski.

 

If you have a budget resctirction, just buy the cheaper one.


Edited by kross0ver - 3/11/2009 at 01:23 am

Just to clarify, are you saying that you have skied both the '08-09 C-10 and the 4 x 4 this year (in addition to the Ltd last year)?  If so, are you saying the C-10 is heavier than the Ltd, or are you just reffering to the difference between the Ti and standard PX 12 fluid binding.  Which one would you pick if you were me? 

post #9 of 11

I opened this thread due to interest in the Contact series and don't have input on the "which Contact" question.  But on the more general "what ski post-ACL" question, hopefully you have something that's a little longer radius than the new Contact, whichever one you get.  YMMV but when I came back post-ACL I felt much more comfortable initially on a 21m midfat than my 12m slalom carver, a Dynastar Omecarve 10.  After awhile both were fine but initially, I was not comfortable with the torque of short sproingy turns, and it was more prone to hook up and surprise me at speed. I think the current Contacts are around 15m, not 12, but still worth considering.

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Originally Posted by ts01 View Post

 

I opened this thread due to interest in the Contact series and don't have input on the "which Contact" question.  But on the more general "what ski post-ACL" question, hopefully you have something that's a little longer radius than the new Contact, whichever one you get.  YMMV but when I came back post-ACL I felt much more comfortable initially on a 21m midfat than my 12m slalom carver, a Dynastar Omecarve 10.  After awhile both were fine but initially, I was not comfortable with the torque of short sproingy turns, and it was more prone to hook up and surprise me at speed. I think the current Contacts are around 15m, not 12, but still worth considering.

A very good point that I have considered...I have several r 21ish skis including the one that I tore my ACL on when it didn't hold an edge.  This was the ski that I took out recently on a short flat green with my daugther and will likely take out again for some easy skiing next week (unless I mount up the Watea 84s I have for sale).  Other than that, my choices are some 96 mm waist Misfits or 66 mm waist Dynastar GS skis that I picked up used this summer. 
 

post #11 of 11
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I had convinced myself that I didn't need another ski, but decided to pull the trigger on the '09 C-10 fluids after getting a 10% off coupon that made the deal too good to pass up...if anyone is interested, I am probably a bit more motivated to sell my undrilled Watea 84s as I will likely use the Contacts and my Misfits as my regular free skis.

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