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Replacements for PRs

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I'm looking for skis for my SO.  She now skis about 15 days per year and has been skiing since the 60's.  She is not very aggressive, but has enough good skills to ski Mt. Baker double diamonds well.  She loves powder and crud and hates groomers.  She skis slowly and likes to skid her heels to scrub speed yet she enjoys the steeps.  She has skied on Pocket Rockets and Elan M666's for the last few years.  These two skis are really at opposite ends of the spectrum and require a huge change in technique when moving between them.  I'm looking for ideas about skis that will turn quickly like the PRs, ski well in new snow and crud, and have decent tracking ability and edge hold in hard conditions.


We were talking about Wateas for her but I would like some more ideas.

 

Help?

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Sugar Daddies

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Sugar Daddies

 

the sugardaddy tail is to stiff and that ski and any other atomic beta skis suck off trail IMO. you simply can not skid them. have you actually skied them PJ?

 

I had the 173 which were to short for me and hard to charge at speed on and the 183 which rocked along as the snow was even. The gotamas I replaced the 183 SD with were so much better everywhere that is would be stupid to buy that ski.

 

amarda ARV in the right size is what I would go for.

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the sugardaddy tail is to stiff and that ski and any other atomic beta skis suck off trail IMO. you simply can not skid them. have you actually skied them PJ?

 

 

4 years, with you at Solitude & Snobasin too.

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Volkl Auras.

 

I had a pair of PRs, 165cm.  Skied them for a couple years, then demo'd the Auras in a 163cm (and bought them). The Auras do everything the PRs can do, and do it better.  Better on groomer snow, better at cutting up crud.  Still easy to turn in the trees and steeps.

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Line Pandora 162. Conventional sidecut and camber, but with early taper so it isn't hooky in powder. The ski is lightweight, so it's nimble despite its waist width. It also has enough torsional stiffness and sidecut that it's easily manuverable on the groomed. Mine used to slide out on hardpack/ice until I had them tuned to 1 degree base, 2 side. Now they hold just fine. Lots of fun in slush, too. I think it's a great all-around ski for Baker/PNW. Might think about the Armada JJ or Rossignol S7 also. Rockered tip and tail, but cambered underfoot.
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The Pandora is a very good call but it's big enough that it might be intimidating for her. If so, the K2 Phat Luv is soft, light, and very easy going. At 102mm underfoot, it's a full cm+ wider than what she had and more directionally stable due to being flat tailed rather than a twin.

 

SJ

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 Did she break the PRs or someting? Just in the mood for something new? How would she like them to be different?

 

Without further info, I say 176 Rossi S7 (or the Roxy version).

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 Did she break the PRs or someting? Just in the mood for something new? How would she like them to be different?

 

Without further info, I say 176 Rossi S7 (or the Roxy version).

We don't want a light ski.  Women's specific is probably not going to make it for her.  She's not built for them.  The problem with her selection of skis right now is that she has one set that is noodly, requires weight to be centered, does great in powder and light crud, but totally sucks on ice.  The other set is good for ice, goes like a bat from Hades when tracking, requires speed and carving to work properly, and needs to have weight forward at all times unless you want to end up on your butt.

 

What we're looking for is a ski that is quick turning, wide enough to help handle the new snow and crud, sturdy enough for PNW "powder," and can hold an edge in icy conditions.

 

I used to ski the same two skis that she has and I found it disconcerting when changing back and forth.  I'm a more aggressive skier than her and it was not a really great mixture for me.  It's worse for her.  Now I'm skiing on Fischer Atuas and Elan 888s and they make a nice matched set.  I'm much happier.  We're now thinking about making her happier too.  Then everything will be wonderful.  And happy.

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Fischer Wateas/Atuas, Sollie Fury's or Blizzard Cronus in shorter lengths will split the difference for unisex, women I know like all three.  

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The direct decendant of the PR in the Solly line is the Gun/Scarlet.  The original Gun used the same molds as the PR but was a bit stiffer.  The current Gun is wider, has more side-cut and is slightly stiffer still.  They came out with a woman's version, the Scarlet, which only differs in graphics.  The Gun is as easy to ski in powder as the PR and more fun on groomers.  If she likes the PR I'd look into the Gun & Scarlet.

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I'm going to second the suggestion for the ARV's.  People who like PR's tend to love the ARV.  Just as easy to turn, edge hold is a little better.

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K2 Obsethed. Got a pair for the wife as her powder board. Very forgiving & easy to ski. They are super easy to turn like the PR's and handles well at slow to medium speeds.

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Seconded on the Obsethed.

 

I'm 125lbs, owned a pair of 164cm Guns and just got done skiing the 169cm Obsethed this weekend. The Obsethed's sidewall and stiffer construction handled better than the Guns on the hard stuff, while the wider surface area and rocker will float better than the Guns... there is no reason not to get the Obsethed over the Gun. Get the Obsethed.

 

My Review of the Obsethed here:

 

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/82237/punishers-magfire-82-ti-obsethed-my-current-3-ski-quiver-review

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We don't want a light ski.  Women's specific is probably not going to make it for her.

 

You'd be surprised.  I found my Auras to be a bit stiffer than the PRs.  If that doesn't work, look at the Volkl Mantra.  Volkls take a more aggressive, forward stance.  So maybe that might be more in line with what she is used to on the Elans.

 

I'll also add a +1 for the Obsethed if she wants a versatile fatty ski.  I picked up a pair of 169cm Obsethed, and I must admit that if there is ANY snow to be had, I grab the Obsethed.  It's a hoot on the groomers as well.  It's not quite as quick turning in steep trees as my Auras, but then again it's a bit longer too.

 

Pick a few models and have her demo the skis to see what SHE likes the best.  The Phat Luv is very popular, but I demo'd this years model and didn't much care for them.  Too planky in bumps, and I didn't like the flat tail.  Everyone has their preferences, and it's nice that there are enough models to match those preferences!

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