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Coupling of Instructional Books and Instruction

post #1 of 11
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Some instructional programs and systems have instructional books that are highly correlated to on slope activities: Breakthrough on (the New) Skis (Tejada-Flores), Anyone Can Be an Expert Skier (Harb), Ski Taos Style (associated with their ski weeks), etc. It seems to me that these can be of great advantage as people who are interested can read about what they will learn before they go and have a reference during a program as well as after they leave. What instructional systems or programs do you know of that have a closely correlated instructional book or manual and how much of an advantage do you think this is?
post #2 of 11
Hi Si,

I think that a coupled program would be of great help to a lot of skiers. I certainly believe it would be of great help to me. From my perspective as a student, I can hardly overstate how helpful it would be to understand the instructer's terminology precisely...and to have the instructor KNOW that I do, so (s)he can rely on it during the lesson(s). Also, a mutual understanding of the mechanics underlying the movements the instructor is trying to teach would be invaluable. Again, not only must I understand the instructor's take on the mechanics, but to be most effective, the instructor would have to know that I understand, and be able to rely on that understanding when deciding on excercises, showing me how it's done, suggesting alternatives, providing me feedback, etc.

You've sort of hit a hot button with me on this one. There are probably a lot of students who wouln't benefit so much from pre-lesson reading and study, and similarly instructors who wouldn't be able to take advantage of the "book learnin" on the student's part, but I believe I would, and I would guess that a lot of us who lurk around the Technique and Instruction forum have of learning style well suited to a coupled program.

If you can direct me to anything written on the Ski Taos Style, I would appreciate it greatly. I took their Super Ski Week last year. I thought it was quite good, but they didn't refer to any coupled reading or lesson plan or Ski Taos Style (at least that I was aware of). I had e-mailed them in advance to see if they had any recommended reading, and the only response was that possibly Warren Witherall's the Athletic Skier would be useful. However, my instructor didn't rely on anything in it and in fact had a criticism of the Burke Mountain Academy's emphasis on (excessive) knee angulalion, as it can too readily result in knee injuries.

Oh, which school? I attended both Moo U and M go Blue.
post #3 of 11
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Hi JimmyD,

I think there are a lot of skiers who would both enjoy and benefit from having an associated manual or book with a program. I am surprised that those that have it don't hype it for marketing purposes (at least for a niche market).

I guess they don't hand out the Ski Taos Style book anymore (I only did the ski week one time about 6 or 7 years ago). At this point I would say it is pretty antiquated, but if you really want one send me a PM with your address (I have 2). I don't think it's worth too much except as an example.
post #4 of 11
Many years ago I was taking a lesson at Alta and made a comment to the instructor, who responded with "Ah, you have read the book!" The book was Jourbert's "How To Ski The New French Way". We were able to communicate much better and I got more out of the lesson. I will leave it up to someone who works for a skischool to explain why an instructor can do it all with his Golden Tongue and ellegant demonstrations. I have taught in three colleges and never thought that my lectures were the Beginning and End of all knowledge.
post #5 of 11
"I attended both Moo U and M go Blue"

Does that mean you partied your way into grad school, JimmyD? :~).
post #6 of 11
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JimmyD, I'm a maize n' blue ski fiend.
post #7 of 11

Thanks for the offer of the "Ski Taos Style" book, but as you suggest, it's probably a bit out of date, and they no longer seem to use it in conjunction with their ski week lessons.


You pretty much hit the nail on the head. [img]smile.gif[/img] It doesn't seem so long ago, but I finished up a couple of years before the Magic era. :

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ December 14, 2001 11:21 AM: Message edited 1 time, by JimmyD ]</font>
post #8 of 11
Has anyone seen the Egan's book, All Terrain Skiing? It comes with these weather proof flash caards you can take with you on the lifts.It is divided into 5 sections, Balance, Upper Body, Power,Fluidity and Agility. I must say there are some unique things in this book I have not seen elsewhere!
post #9 of 11
I'm a researcher all the way. That's what I do for a living so reading up before I do anything is a benefit to me.

I really like the idea of gaining a base knowledge but we all learn differently so I can see how this might hinder or confuse some ppl.

I have several of the resources listed here and find them all to great.

LM: I wonder if there is a correlation between the Cat and the Salamander re: which one benefits more from pre-study.
post #10 of 11
Oh WOW!!!! You know, did you ever notice how a cat studies its prey very seriously before it makes the attack! Brilliant comment!
post #11 of 11
Have you ever wondered which books the authors of those ski books read to gain THEIR skiing knowlegde?

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