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post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 

I know this is a much talked about subject, and i've trawled through a lot of the threads on this already, however i'd still be interested to hear thoughts given my particular skier type & what i'm looking for.

I've recently picked up a set of im88's in 186cm - new, yet to be mounted. I have never skied the im88 and picked it up largely based on it'sspecs/reputation. However, having read some of the threads in here, it seems as though the consensus is that the 186 is a lot of ski, and this has prompted some post purchase concerns...

 

Here are my details:

30yrs old
5'11
175lbs
Strong skier - getting better as am now racing
Living in PNW so skiing Crystal, Alpental, Stevens + couple weeks in Jackson/year

 

Currently my daily ski is the Dynastar XXL in a 187. I love the damp feel of this ski, but do sometimes think it's too much ski for me. Now that i've started racing i'm trying to translate that agressive edging approach more to my everyday skiing, and i find this tough to do on the dynastars - 110 waist and huge

37 m turning radius. I find myself jumping them arround and smearing a lot, which is fine but i'd rather pivot less and carve more.

 

For this reason i picked up the Heads. The logic being that they're narrower and have more sidecut so will be more like the my GS skis (182cm Dynastar Speed Course Pros). I'm not going to be skiing them in anything over a couple of inches of powder as i've got other skis for that;-) The plan is to use these for everyday conditions - mainly non groomed stuff, so crud, tracked up terrain and steeps. I tend to favor larger style turns when conditions allow, but do like making a variety of turn shapes.

 

Given the above am i right to go for the 186's or should i downsize to the 175's? An alternative would be to mount the 186's a little forward so they turn faster - i don't sacrificing some powder performance. Thoughts on this?

Thanks!

 

post #2 of 7

That would be a lot of ski for your height/weight.  175cm might make sense, but I'd really recommend finding the right ski in the 180-185cm range instead.

 

I ski the 186cm, and don't have any problems pressuring the tips despite it being a strong ski.  I wouldn't mess with mounting position; you could risk making the tails too long which can make the skis unwieldy.

post #3 of 7

If your looking for a quicker turning ski I would downsize to a 175.  I would not mount the binding forward on the 186s.  I think if you did, you would be unhappy with the way the ski performed and if you're looking to arc turns, it wouldn't really turn any faster.

 

I'm not sure what the radius is on the 186cm 88 (22-23ish?) but it is certainly a lot closer to your Course Pro's than your XXLs.

 

For me (29yrs, 6'1", 170) I might opt for the 175s, but I could certainly ski the 186s.

post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the feedback. I think i'll go with the 175cm on the basis that i want to make a variety of turn shapes and that i've got other tools for powder. Also given that i'm looking to improve my skiing, it sounds like i'll be better able to control (read flex) the 175 than the 186, which might just take me for a ride.

 

 

post #5 of 7
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the feedback. I think i'll go with the 175cm on the basis that i want to make a variety of turn shapes and that i've got other tools for powder. Also given that i'm looking to improve my skiing, it sounds like i'll be better able to control (read flex) the 175 than the 186, which might just take me for a ride.

 

 

post #6 of 7

Agree about the 175 being the pick. It's a strong ski; you don't have to worry about overpowering it at 175 lbs. And with the XXL's, maching powder or deep crud shouldn't be high on your list for the Heads.  

post #7 of 7

Just to be a lone dissenter: I have the 186. I'm a little bigger (or at least heavier) than you, but presumably since you're considerably younger, more of your weight is doing good things for your, rather than just tagging along for the ride. Given your age, geographical region and race experience, I suspect you are, relative to the public as a whole, more than just a "strong" skier.

 

I don't know that particularly GS ski, but compared to 183 cm Atomic GS skis, the 186 cm Monster is, to my feel, much easier to ski. It feels more like a race carver than a GS ski on packed snow. It's very damp as well: similar in this respect to the Atomic GS skis and dramatically different from a Fischer race carver. FWIW, the sidecut is, by my figuring, right around 22 m, which is the same as my Atomic GS skis, but it feels more turny.

 

I wouldn't fool around with the mounting point, unless I had a binding or plate that allowed me to experiment without drilling holes in the ski.

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