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post #1 of 24
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Hi All, I'm new to the forum but not to skiing. Ok, haven't skied in a while and not a pro either. I'd say my skill level is intermediate but I'm not afraid to try anything new. I've already went skiing a few times this year and fell right back into the grove of things rather quickly.  Been able to take the single blacks without much of an issue (Pocono's in PA black). But then again I'm not sure it's because I'm just crazy and don't know what I'm doing and just going with the flow of things.

 

I just got back from a ski shop that has a 2004-2005 Fischer RX6 w/ the Railflex 10 bindings. They had it for $299 but since there was some cosmetic damage on the top, I got it down to $279. I also looked at the Tecnica Mega 10 Ski boots running for $199.  Now, I've searched all over the web and this forum over the past few days and read many reviews and first hand experiences about the RX6. I'm quite excited about it.  So I'm fairly confident that it'll be a good pair of skis to learn, progress my skills, and grow into.

 

But of course, i'd like to get some opinions out there before I commit. I'm 5'6", 150lbs, and pretty atheletic. I'm looking to be able to be able to be aggressive when I want to but not something that'll throw me into the snow if I make a mistake. Does the Heat series replace the old RX series? I've tried to search what would the equivalent of the rx6 is but not much came up. Cool heat = RX6 maybe?

 

Any opinion, good or/and bad welcome!

 

 

post #2 of 24
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So no more opinons on the RX6? Is it pass it's time? Are there newer skis which would performly equally well at that price point?

post #3 of 24

Do some searching on this forum... I don't know a lot about Fischer skis, but I think the RX-6 is fairly well regarded... its stiffer, slightly more demanding brother the RX-8 is one of the best regarded skis of them all (going by reviews).  Again...use the search function...

 

Make sure you try on several boots before buying - boots are so important (and expensive), that's it's not something you want to make a mistake on.  Ideally, you should chose them with the help of a boot fitter, but if that's not possible, check out the boot fitting info on this site.  I can have fun on almost any pair of skis...but there's no fun to be had in il-fitting boots.

post #4 of 24

$279 for used '04 gear sounds too high. For example, see milehighathletic.com or other sites that sell used demo gear.

 

Also, a Google trick: add "site:craigslist.org" or "site:ebay.com" to your search and Google will only search the specified site. Handy trick for obtaining "data points" to see if a price is good or bad.

post #5 of 24
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Jay, thanks for the reply. As I have mentioned, I have searched on this forum the past few days and read many reviews.  Since the last RX series came out in 2008 (2007 ski season), I haven't seen much info since around that time.  I was hoping to get a feel to see which heat series skis is comparable to the RX6. Maybe I'm over thinking things too much?

 

As for the boots, I've tried on the Tecnica Mega 8 and 10 and both fit very nicely. Snug but not overtly tight. I'll probaby try other boots as well.

post #6 of 24
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$279 for used '04 gear sounds too high. For example, see milehighathletic.com or other sites that sell used demo gear.

 

Also, a Google trick: add "site:craigslist.org" or "site:ebay.com" to your search and Google will only search the specified site. Handy trick for obtaining "data points" to see if a price is good or bad.

 

Hoody, actually the skis are new and never been skied on. There's only some small chips on the top side (presumably when they were moving it around throughout the past few years) but the bottom of the skis are flawless.

 

So $279 for new but dated ski such as the RX6 is a good deal?

post #7 of 24

Dawei, the RX-6 was certainly a very good ski.  As to the price, it's hard to find new equipment for a price that's much lower - if a shop has been holding on to that ski for that long, they'll probably can't sell it for anything less. And if the Tecnica's fit well, they might be a good solution too.

 

But here is the thing.  Both ski and boot technology just keep getting better and better.  Already, the innovations in some of the 09-10 gear make the RXs and the Mega 10s a bit out of date.

 

My advice would be to take the skis if you can't find a better deal, but maybe splurge on some newer boots.  Boot fit is one of the most critical equipment decisions you can make.  An ill fitting boot will not only perform poorly, but can cut off circulation, making your feet cold.  Liners have gotten better at molding to your feet.

 

I would go and find a good bootfitter to help guide you to the right boot.

post #8 of 24

You can get brand new 09 skis for that price range if you shop around.  Many bargains to be found right now.

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You can get brand new 09 skis for that price range if you shop around.  Many bargains to be found right now.

 

$280 for an '09 ski and binding package seems a bit low to me, even in this economy.  Someone might have some beginner package out there, but they probably won't be as good as the RXs...

post #10 of 24

Check o2gearshop.com for instance.  Also sierraskis.com. 

post #11 of 24
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You can get brand new 09 skis for that price range if you shop around.  Many bargains to be found right now.

 

Yeah, but most of them for around $500 for both skis, binding, boots are mostly ski equipments geared toward the beginner to intermediate level. And I've searched fevorishly everyone to find something comparable at that price point . But I do understand sometimes to have the newer stuff, you gotta pay to play as well.

 

 

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Dawei, the RX-6 was certainly a very good ski.  As to the price, it's hard to find new equipment for a price that's much lower - if a shop has been holding on to that ski for that long, they'll probably can't sell it for anything less. And if the Tecnica's fit well, they might be a good solution too.

 

But here is the thing.  Both ski and boot technology just keep getting better and better.  Already, the innovations in some of the 09-10 gear make the RXs and the Mega 10s a bit out of date.

 

My advice would be to take the skis if you can't find a better deal, but maybe splurge on some newer boots.  Boot fit is one of the most critical equipment decisions you can make.  An ill fitting boot will not only perform poorly, but can cut off circulation, making your feet cold.  Liners have gotten better at molding to your feet.

 

I would go and find a good bootfitter to help guide you to the right boot.


The Mega 10's is a bit outdated? Wow, ok, that's something I didn't know. But I do understand what you mean by new innovations already surpassing the old equipments.  As for the boot, the local ski shop measured, sized and did a pretty good job on explaining how I should feel and why I should feel a certain way with the boots.  Boots is something I'll probably get locally to get the expertise.

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$280 for an '09 ski and binding package seems a bit low to me, even in this economy.  Someone might have some beginner package out there, but they probably won't be as good as the RXs...

 

Yeah, most of the ski/binding packages I've seen for the 08's - 09's models for around $300 are almost exclusively beginner packages. From what I've been reading in regards to something stiffer and geared more towards the intermediate level and up, the prices start at $400 w/out bindings.

 

 

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Check o2gearshop.com for instance.  Also sierraskis.com. 

 

Ya thanks but I've already checked them out, and ski-depot.com, ski-stop.com, skis.com, and a few more.  Thanks for the tip though!

post #12 of 24

I have been buying high end expert skis for $250-300, and finding 12-15 DIN binding deals for $100-120, so I'm sure intermediate gear can be found at least that cheap or cheaper if you hunt for bargains.  Keep an eye on www.tramdock.com/ too -- yesterday they had Dynastar Legend 8000 skis with integrated Fluid PX 12 bindings for $409, which is an outstanding deal on an excellent low-mid expert ski that even an intermediate could handle.

post #13 of 24

That's not bad... but I was looking for a deal on some skis recently, and couldn't find any new advanced ski/binding packages for less than $400US...and that was at the low end.  Most of the skis that I'd been demoing, which I liked were around $600 Canadian... I'm guessing they'll go down $100 or so for the summer sale, but perhaps not.  I ended up buying some used '08 demo skis for $200US.

 

I found very little stock on any of the 'deal' sites that are often quoted here.. it's late in the season.  $280 might not be a spectacular price for a 2004-05 RX-6, but it might also be the best deal dawei213 is able to get...especially on a new pair of skis.

 

Then again...looking at the long term forecast here (Ontario-Quebec), I'm wondering if our ski season will end prematurely. :(

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I have been buying high end expert skis for $250-300, and finding 12-15 DIN binding deals for $100-120, so I'm sure intermediate gear can be found at least that cheap or cheaper if you hunt for bargains.  Keep an eye on www.tramdock.com/ too -- yesterday they had Dynastar Legend 8000 skis with integrated Fluid PX 12 bindings for $409, which is an outstanding deal on an excellent low-mid expert ski that even an intermediate could handle.

Truly - Almost $300 for a 4 year-old, cosmetically blemished ski is no bargain my any means.
 

 

I (of course ), couldn't resist the L8k deal, and now have another pair to keep the quiver expanding. $400 shipped to your door (and no tax) for an 8K (with Look's) vs a 4 year-old ski - easy choice.

 

They'll be plaenty of new skis at bargain prices shortly - that Fischer isn't one of them.

 

post #15 of 24
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Now you guys are making me re-think my decision... and to be honest, I have already purchased the skis but haven't pick it up from the store yet.  Buyer's remorse? yeah a bit...but since i haven't picked it up, I can always get a refund.

 

How about the 2008 Rossi Bandit B78 with the Axium 120 Bindings for around $300? It looks like it has great review as an all around mountain ski as well...but it's also longer at 158cm versuses the RX6's 150cm? Would 8cm make that great of a difference?

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Now you guys are making me re-think my decision... and to be honest, I have already purchased the skis but haven't pick it up from the store yet.  Buyer's remorse? yeah a bit...but since i haven't picked it up, I can always get a refund.

 

How about the 2008 Rossi Bandit B78 with the Axium 120 Bindings for around $300? It looks like it has great review as an all around mountain ski as well...but it's also longer at 158cm versuses the RX6's 150cm? Would 8cm make that great of a difference?

5:6, 150lbs and pretty athletic on 150cm? - yikes.
 

For sure the Rossi's a better deal, and it appears like you're in a hurry to buy something, otherwise watch for evogear.com, sierraskis.com plus many more with fantastic deals coming up soon. 158cm will be fine for you. 

 

Anyway, a 158 would be fine (150 is

post #17 of 24

Err... I'm no expert (others on this forum are), but 150cm seems too short for you at 150lbs... I'm 150lbs as well, and started out skiing on 150cm skis (rentals), but once I learned the basics and started skiing blues and black diamonds regularily, they were quickly too short.  I was skiing 158cm skis earlier this year...and am moving to 165cm skis now (recently purchased after demoing).  While demoing skis, I felt I was most comfortable with skis 160-165, though I had no trouble with 172cm+ skis either.

 

If you can return them, I would strongly consider it... not so much because it isn't a great deal, but perhaps because they may be the wrong skis for you.

post #18 of 24
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Yes, I was in a bit of a hurry just because I was excited to read about the RX6 (granted those posts were from 2004 to 2007) and I thought I was getting a great deal. I was too quick to act before I actually started asking questions which led to other questions I didn't think about.

 

As for the length, I've always rented 150cm's as that's what the rental places always suggested. And what's different in how you guys suggest ski length to what the rental places is that they always go according to my height and not my weight.  I guess that's the easiest way to determine appropriate ski lengths to renters? As for using 150cm, I've always felt it to be fast but my friend who has the Volkl AC20 @ 165cm always fly by me. And I feel I can probably go faster and feel just as comfortable as well.

 

In any case, I read up on the Rossi B78 Bandit and looks like a much more updated and equally if not better skis than the RX6.

post #19 of 24

dawai213, you didn't state your gender. If you're a lady, here is a good deal http://www.evogear.com/outlet/skis/roxy-phoenix-intergral-bindings-womens-2008.aspx

 

This is Roxy's brand version of B83. They have these in 168cm. If they have one in 160cm then I would have gotten it for my 12yo.

 

Use the couple from the home page for an additional 25% OFF.

post #20 of 24

I think the rental places I've been to usually assumed I was a beginner..so they'd give me 150cm skis as well... which were great when first learning and spending most of my time on the greens...and a bit of blue.... but when you start going more quickly, the extra length is appreciated - I found it made skiing easier. 

 

If you haven't done so, consider renting a 160cm or more ski and see how it feels... especially on blue/black runs... you may like it.

post #21 of 24
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dawai213, you didn't state your gender. If you're a lady, here is a good deal http://www.evogear.com/outlet/skis/roxy-phoenix-intergral-bindings-womens-2008.aspx

 

This is Roxy's brand version of B83. They have these in 168cm. If they have one in 160cm then I would have gotten it for my 12yo.

 

Use the couple from the home page for an additional 25% OFF.

 

I'm a guy but thanks for trying

 

Yeah, the Rossi B78 I'm looking at comes to below $300 with the 25% off.

 

Jay31, yeah I should but I'm heading up to NM next weekend so I'm hoping to get my gears set before I head up. Why spend $80 to rent for a weeekend when that can go towards the skis.  Appreciate your input.

post #22 of 24
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Hey all, just a quick update.

 

I ended up getting the Rossignol B78 Bandit with the Rossignol Axium 120 binding and the Lange Fluid 80 ski boots for around $475 total. A great deal in fact and cheaper than the Fischer RX-6 w/ Tecnica Mega 10 boots I was looking at earlier.

 

I had the opportunity to take it out to Mount Sunapee and Gunstock in New Hampshire this weekend and had a great time with it. It definitely ski faster than any rental I've ever had.  Next season, improve on my carving techniques!

post #23 of 24

I also ski the b78's. Highly underrated, great ski in my experience. Do yourself a favor and have the bases checked for flatness. If not flat, grind flat. Bevel base edges 1 degree and side edges 3 degrees. This will unleash what the designers hoped for you to experience with this ski. They carve well, ski moguls extremely well, chop up crud good and are great in a foot or less of powder. Keep them waxed often and enjoy!!!

post #24 of 24
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I also ski the b78's. Highly underrated, great ski in my experience. Do yourself a favor and have the bases checked for flatness. If not flat, grind flat. Bevel base edges 1 degree and side edges 3 degrees. This will unleash what the designers hoped for you to experience with this ski. They carve well, ski moguls extremely well, chop up crud good and are great in a foot or less of powder. Keep them waxed often and enjoy!!!

 

Thanks for the advice. I have already checked for flatness and they are flat. I have not had the chance to check the bevel base edges and side edges yet though. Didn't have the time. I'll probably order one of the Tools4Boards kit in a week or so and prep them for next winter.

 

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