Kids/teens dangerous behavior on chairlifts : patrol needs to control

Lift ops are also responsible for dealing with these behaviors.  Probably more so.  Tehy are responsible fr safe operations of the lifts.

I agree, patrol, lift ops and anyone else needs to keep an eye on kids and tell them not to bounce the chairs, but the incident in Spain is not related to that behaviour...

From the looks of the video, the sheaves were pulled right off the tower.  "Bouncing kids" are not going to do that, no matter how hard they try.  The story itself mentions vibration from the haul rope.  It is "theoretically possible" to derail the haul rope, but very difficult, and there are backup rope catchers for that problem.  (of course, that would still stop the lift and necessitate a lift evac, but groundfall is very very unlikely)

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Originally Posted by dustyfog 

 

I should state there is no implication in the story that "bouncing" on chairs was a contributing factor, its just that observing the forces generated, one can imagine the stresses on the bolts etc being magnified, of course nature itself exerts forces but preventing such man-made motions can help in my humble view.

why did you title the thread as you did if cheap sensationalism was never your intent??

start another thread about bouncing chairs and we'll have that discussion....

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Originally Posted by dustyfog 

 

Because causality is hard to pin down, and its simply a matter of physics, and resonance, if one set of bolts go, the odds of several blowing increase exponentially. and having observed the behavior noted, getting feedback important. what the he&& do you mean sensationalism, 21 folks got hurt, because of mechanical failure whose cause is to be determined, bringing it to the notice of the community should be obligatory. fact is no one should be bouncing on chairlifts for a multitude of reasons. you have heard of the first amendment, and the fifth amendment, the first permits you to speak, the fifth allows to you keep it to yourself, exercise either. this is a post based on observation and other folks views on the subject are informative including yours who had good advice on rotator cuff tead earlier, if i recall correctly.I can add this applies to all, kids/teens and adults.

Edited by dustyfog - 3/4/2009 at 02:05 am

good job! Invoking the constition---intertubes 101.  are you going to throw out the Nazi bomb next??

Thread title says (and I paraphrase) Punk As_ Kids Bounce Chairs and destroy a lift---and hurt innocent folks---grand parents and infants....

wher do you get that from the story??

That, to me is sensationalism to promote what ever your agenda is.

If you want to have a discussion about bouncing chairs, like I said, start another thread---it really is a worthy discussion and one behavoir that will get you ALL of my attention when I see it.

Hey Skier j  I saw those mettlin' kids at SnowBird yesterday

"The fixed grip on top of the chair moved into the wheels at Tower 23 (near the top of the lift) and blew off the track. That triggered the automatic stop,"  Snowbird's Jared Ishkanian told OnTheSnow.com. "We had a choice. To fix the chair with everyone sitting up there or get them down. We opted to evac."

http://www.onthesnow.com/news/a/6284/skiers-evacuated-from-snowbird-lift-in-high-winds-all-are-safe

OK so it wasn't them mettlin' kids after all now wuz it?