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2009 Rossignol Zenith 15 Mutix, any experiences with these?

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Thread Starter 

Can't find much review on these on the internet.  Any one tried these on?

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I'm interested in more info about this ski as well. I just picked up a pair on a whim off Tramdock. Does anyone have exprience with this ski?

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I've got the '09 Z11's, and they kill it.  Basically the Z15 is the same ski, but wider.  Although I was VERY skeptical, the Mutix arms do really work - there is a definite difference between the stiff and less-stiff arms.  I don't know that I really need an 85mm carver though, and I'm thinking that might be why you don't see many reviews.


I don't consider these "all-mt" skis though.  Definitely a groomer ski, and even with the wider waist, I don't see them as a ski that's really going to be an off-piste floater.  I don't think they're as powerful as my Elan Magfire 14's either, which means they'll deflect more in crud. 


The Zenith Mutix are fun skis though - very nice ride.  They are damp in the typical Rossi way. 

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Originally Posted by axebiker View Post

They are damp in the typical Rossi way. 


Can you explain more what you mean by Rossi being "damp?"

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I demoed these skis about 2 weeks ago when I went up to Le Massif for a weekend trip.  They would only let you take them out for about an hour at a time.  I tried them with the stiffer arms.  The temp was about - 5 degrees C and it was later in the afternoon.  Tested the 170 cm.  Runs were black diamond cruisers.  I was fairly impressed with these skis, as they cut through the afternoon ice without any problems.  These are not short turning skis at all, they are for medium to long radius turns.  Very good feel to the snow and they stayed locked through the turn.  These are heavy skis, not for powder, chutes, bumps or any off trail activity at all.  The Z11 Multix are the short turn breathern to the Z15's, exact same review except that they are for short turns and are not for long turns at all, they just cannot grip and follow a long GS turn, they simply run out of steam basically.  The next day I demoed the Head iSupershape at Mont Ste. Anne. Temp was similar and so were the snow conditions. Only had the 163 cm ski available.  I loved this ski, felt it was a better ski than the Z11, as it was not as heavy and skied bigger than the ski length, I would have loved to have had the 170cm length for this ski. I had this ski out all day long, enjoyed it that much, it really gripped through the early morning ice and just held onto its turn.  Very good it short turns and great for medium size turns, average for long radius turns.  Didn't take it into the bumps or the trees as the coverage was pretty minimal in certain areas and icy in the trees. 

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Originally Posted by ACHTUNG View Post




Can you explain more what you mean by Rossi being "damp?"



Rossis typically have a "quiet" ride in that they are not a chattery ski, and you tend to not get a huge amount of feedback from it - it seems to absorb a lot of the chatter I get back from other skis.  This bothers some - they equate it with a ski that feels "dead".  I actually like that feel - it's quite the opposite that I would get from something like a Salomon.  I find Rossi to be a predictable ski, and they don't give a ton back unless you really force them to.


Make sense? 

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I demoed these skis last spring at Sunshine Village.  The concept intrigued me but the actual ski left me skeptical.  They are wide and heavy.  I spent the day on a variety of terrain from hardpacked groomers, black diamond moguls, double black chutes and knee deep powder.  With the right "fingers" installed they worked amazing.  They are light and quick on the snow.  Bottom line I bought a new pair from ebay at the end of last year, skiied them once and LOVE them.  I bought the 176 cm as I am 225 lbs and an aggressive skier.  These really are an excellent choice for an all mountain ride.
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Rossignol Zenith Z15 Mutix
I obtained a pair of these and tried to use them for ski teacher exam.  (I Required all mountain skis with s/c radius >15m)
Big Mistake.
Although they are ok in soft conditions:-
The Mutix arms are large and you wouldn't want to carry them.  They freeze into place, so carry a hammer to free them.
I kept the stiff arms in all the time after that.
The skis I used were made in Spain, and they de-laminated. 
The Rossi HQ in Chamonix would have changed them, but they were UK Imports.  The UK Importer point blank refused to admit there was a manufacturing problem.  Also, the informed me the arms were not designed to be changed on the hillside.
The skis are heavy and do not carry well on the shoulder as they are so ugly and bulky, and the camber on them is large and cumbersome.
The bindings are rental-type and need specialist knowledge to adjust them, or else if you follow the consumer instructions you get it wrong.
The skis will not hold on steep ice.  I'm used to full GS skis and the difference is dramatic.  I led a training session on ice one day after work.  I took off down a steep, hard slope.  Immediately, I was in trouble.  The Z15s chattered and vibrated so much, one ski vibrated off leaving me cruising along on the remaining one.  This on a 40 Degree slope made of ice.
In the resulting crash, the Binding Heel-piece jammed solid in an inverted position, I needed to ski back to the lodge on one ski and find a hammer to free it.
I got these Z15s with a pair of Rossignol VIP vouchers.  Two seasons' bonus, and I paid cash on top of that.  They are very expensive.
Would I use them again? No amount of money would induce me to ski on Rossignol Zenith Z15 Mutix skis again.  I wouldn't even give them away and force the new owner to endure them.

However Rossi SX Oversize GS are great skis.  I have had great years on conventional Rossignol Technology.
post #9 of 11
Rossi Z15 Mutix
Judge for yourself how Luc Alphand got on with his Z15 Mutix in this clip.
He's all over the place on them, falling inside and losing grip.  He calls it "Custom your Ride".  I call it an accurate advert.
Luc: You should have used a very expressive French word: "Non!".  Anyway the skis aren't even French.  Theyre made in Spain.

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I absolutely love the z15s for front side carving. Got a chance to try them out over the past two weekends. Great for medium and longer turns. I was able to bust out some short turns but it required a little more work. I thought these skis were real easy to rip on. I skied them with the regular arms. Have not had the chance to try the stiffer arms. I would definitely recommend them to anyone looking for an all mountain carver for western conditions.
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I picked up a pair at the end of last season.

I am a very strong, athletic skiier who enjoys big, FAST GS style turns.  Previous ski was a sick pair of Elan Race GS, 178 cm. 

I too was VERY sceptical but demoed them anyway.  I was in love with my Elans.  Loved them.

Never skied them again.

The Rossignols were insane.  Monsters.  The Elans held the turns in a wider arc and it took a while to get used to the softer tails but they flung you through the turns in a controlled, more agressive way.

I was hooked on the first run.  I rode them through some extremely marginal spring conditions that consisted of corn snow, ice water and even a little mud and they were very forgiving yet extremely agressive. 

I love these skis.  I feel like I have two F-15 fighters on my feet!!!


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