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post #31 of 35


Originally Posted by newfydog View Post




Aww common prickly  we all know Italy is a place with no nuances, chaos, or negotiable rules.  "they have decided"  Somewhere it is written down and everyone is following the rules.

Oh, sure.



The great thing about scofflaw-ism here is that people do it so rationally. There's always a reason for not obeying the law, as if to do otherwise would be naive or uncivilized or something. It's a great country. And it keeps snowing...

post #32 of 35

To those slamming the OP.  A slightly careful reading of the post reveals the phrase "Some ideas:"  and the post closes by asking for more suggestions.  I'm just saying add your thoughts without lambasting Whiteroom.  His intention was to foster a discussion on the subject.

post #33 of 35

There's some really cool ideas in this thread. Wiki worthy? Maybe split "handy tips" and "OB mountain safety".

post #34 of 35

Put your lighter/matches/electronics in a waterproof container (zip lock baggie works).

post #35 of 35

 Yes -  that way they will stay dry while buried under something like this :




The above pics are from the WSDOT flickr set. They are of the Feb 2008 Tunnel Creek slide. They do not do justice to the scale of this thing - it was just huge. The exit to the road of a  sidecountry run rather casually lauded (IMO) in one of the ski rags (don't recall which) this year is under about a bajillion tons of snow, dirt and timber in these images (OK, well it might be just to the side of the main debris pile...). 


To be fair, IIRC no one could have gotten to the terrain in question the day this slide happened. But it paints a graphic image of the forces and issues in play. And there are plenty of opportunities to kick off smaller but meaningful slides on days this terrain is accessible (I've actually never done it because the right confluence of my self confidence, conditions and group just has not come together...). And let's not forget an abundance of tree wells in the area... And this is just one graphic example of the kinds of issues that demand attention throughout much of the U.S if you want to head into sidecountry terrain.


IMO this drives home why some sensible level of training and being properly equipped and judgement  needs to be at the top of the list - and the little checklist items, while useful and perhaps beneficial, really are second order items...  Until people comprehend this, my belief is that all the "niceties" are a fine way to feel better about being "proactive", and they might help in some corner cases - but they do little to materially change the odds of the game... Just one random not-expert guy's .02...


Carry on with the list making I guess...

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