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Skiing in the backseat, standing, and boot forward-lean adjustment

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When playing any sport, I've always had a tendency to keep low and crouch. It's just me.


So, I think when I ski I'm too low because I often feel the pressure of the back of my leg against my boot and the one quad on the inner side of my upper leg tends to get sore.


So, I think I need to try to concentrate on STANDING up and getting my ankles/hips and shoulders in a vertical line, right?


Well, if this is correct, to help with this I've got my boots set to nearly maximum forward lean. I found that before I did this my crouching would LET me get waaay back, but now with the lean I feel the back of the boot, reminding me to stand up. But then someone told me that forward lean encourages CROUCHING!


Am I on the right track here? Should I be standing and should I have the boot on forward lean? When my shoulders/hips/ankle are in line, should I feel any leg pressure on the boot back, tongue, or neutral?








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I believe that you can ski stronger and last longer by taking advantage of skeletal stacking.  With skeletal stacking we're letting our bones handle the majority of our weight and the pressures that build when skiing rather than our muscles.


When you're in a very low, very flexed position all the time you are loading your quads and other muscles unnecessarily.  Some may say that a more vertically upright position is less "dynamic" or unprepared for executing skiing moves, but personally I haven't found that to be the case.


When Bud Heishman checks your fore/aft alignment (in boots and clicked into skis) he's looking at the alignment of your toes, knees, and nose (the old Tony Knows thing) to ensure that you're in an athletic, but balanced position over your skis.  If Bud chimes in here I'm sure he can elaborate, clarify, and correct if necessary.


I also like to do the squat test in my boots to check the forward lean and ramp angle of a pair of boots.  If I can squat down far enough to get my thighs parallel with the floor (while keeping the boots flat on the floor) and stand back up without falling over I call it good.

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Hi Sting,


Too much forward lean will pitch your shins angle too far forward.  If you extend your knees with that shin angle you'll eventually end up with your balance point too far forward.  To compensate, the body naturally flexes the at the knees, and you end up in a hunched stance.  In that stance you'll always be bearing the load of your weight and the turning forces with your muscles instead of your skeleton, the effects of which you will feel as fatigue in your thighs. 


Another problem with too much forward lean:  People only have a limited amount of range of motion in their ankles.  If boots have too much forward lean that range of ankle flexion can be used up before the shin ever pressures the front of the boot.  There are times you want to have the ability to pressure the boot front. 


You may find that hunched stance a familar position from other sports, but In other sports that hunched position is a ready position, and you leave it when you begin to perform.  If you're always in a hunched stance when skiing, you're always in the ready position, never in a performance position, yet in skiing you're performing almost all the time.  Long is strong.  Get your boot setup sorted, then think long in the outside leg as you turn. 





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Excellent answers above.  What I think is the hardest movement in skiing is flexing the ankle joint, instead of flexing the knees and bending at the waist to compensate for the hips ending up behind the feet.  Assuming there is no drastic fore/aft alignment issues, my advice is to take a lesson from a qualified instructor and learn how to flex your ankles to keep a balanced position over your skis.



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