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post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

In the Gear, Resorts & More tab, members can review skis, boots, accessories, resorts and so on.  I think the review criteria need more thought. for each category, what would be the most helpful things to rate?  For example, I think value and durability have no real meaning to a ski-review.  I would want to rate its capability in categories like edge carving, moguls and bumps, deep snow, etc.   Under apparel, I would add water-resistance, and durability.  Help us decide how to rate things, and please start putting in your gear and reviews.  This is often the most viewed part of the site and includes links to the related forum content.

 

You can edit the following list in the Review Categories wiki and make comments in this thread.  That will make the collective edits all in one place.  You may delete existing review categories and add others.

 

Alpine Skis:

Value 
Durability 
Edge Grip 
Maneuverability 
Performance 
Overall 
add: Edge grip, Moguls, Deep snow
 
 
Men's Ski Equipment / Ski Boots
Value 
Comfort 
Durability 
Performance 
True to Size 
Overall 
add: Liner, Buckles, Power Strap

 

Mens Ski Equipment / Apparel and Accessories /Jacket or Coat

Value 
Comfort 
Style 
True to Size 
Warmth 
Overall 
Add: Water resistance, pockets,

 

Mens Ski Equipment / Apparel and Accessories /Gloves

Value 
Comfort 
Style 
True to Size 
Warmth 
Overall 
Add: Water resistance,

 

Alpine Ski Bindings

Value 
Durability 
Performance 
Overall 
Add:
 
Ski Poles
Value 
Durability 
Grip 
Overall 
Add: shock absorption
 
Goggles
Value 
Clarity 
Comfort 
Durability 
Style 
Overall 
 
Add: fog resistance

Helmets
Value 
Clarity 
Comfort 
Durability 
Style 
Overall 

 

Add: Ventilation, Warmth,

 

 

Value 
Downhill Terrain 
Family Friendly 
Nightlife 
Terrain Park 
Overall 
 
Add: Steeps, Intermediate terrain, Beginner Terrain, Grooming, Trees, Off-piste
post #2 of 9
Thread Starter 

Well, this thread got no love in the gear discussion forum, so I'll try it here.

 

Anyone want different criteria for gear and resort reviews?

post #3 of 9

Less is more. My brain can't even hold all the junk you listed. Get rid of virtually all of it. Let people enter a quicky summary, a rating (1-5 stars or maybe -2 thumbs, -1 thumb, average, +1 thumb, + 2 thumbs), and then their comments. If you want, accomplish that other stuff with tag clouds. The more silly subjective structure you stick in, the fewer people fill want to wade through filling out junk they believe has nothing to do with the review they want to produce (or worse, detracts from the review) . And you'll end up with all the "reviews" in the main threads because that way people can say what they want without a confining structure.

 

And resorts have nothing in common with gear in terms of ratings. The fact that they are lumped in with gear reviews seems to indicate that the technology is driving the UI & site structure. Not "what makes sense". They need their own space and their own structure.

post #4 of 9

Well, might as well be me.

 

How about Men's Ski Poles

And           Mens Ski Poles

 

sorry, couldn't resist

post #5 of 9

For ski reviews, it would be useful if the reviewer could indicate his/her height, weight, gender, and skiing level.

post #6 of 9

For resorts, the "own it", "had it", whatever, makes no sense.  Maybe "it's my local hill", "been there", would be more appropriate.  Certainly "want to go there" would be useless to create a review.

post #7 of 9

For ski reviews I think what should also be included is:

 

  • what type of boots (since if you are on race boots or some super soft boots it will affect the ride)

  • edge bevels
  • if the skis were waxed
  • skier weight and height
  • the bindings used (a plate system can also affect performance and weight)
  • skier ability*
  • Conditions they were tested on, including temperature
  • anything else that may affect the test: hungover, tired, sore, etc.

 

* I am hesitant to include ability since it is largely subjective but I guess it can be generalized between an experienced skier and a novice, or say a racer and blue only free skier.

 

post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 

I think those are fine guidelines for what can be included in a review.  My concern is with the Star-Ratings.  Every review has an "overall rating" but for skis, I think the following may miss the mark:

Value 
Durability 
Edge Grip 
Maneuverability 
Performance
 
The question is, what easily ranked criteria are important to you in judging a ski. The current ratings are all related to "quality rating"..   A ski's "value" differs according to what you paid. "Durability" is something you probably can't judge for a long time and is variable for different skiers and uses. The importance of "edge grip" varies with the conditions you use the ski in and intention.  The need for "edge grip" is different for a Pontoon, Hellbent or Kuro as opposed to a Supershape, Top Fuel or a racing ski.  I'd be more inclined to only give an overall rating, or find different performance criteria to rate like moguls, powder, groomed piste to quickly rate the range of uses for a ski.
post #9 of 9

For ski ratings, maybe you should have different rating categories for each "type" of ski?  Or instead of "edge grip" and "performance", 1-5 stars for a few different conditions (hard snow/ice, groomers, soft snow, deep powder, moguls)?  Agreed that "value" is sort of ill-defined, and "durability" can only reasonably be evaluated if you've owned a ski for a while.  If you intend for people to submit reviews/ratings of skis they've only demoed, these would need a "N/A" option, or should just be removed.
 

I agree that the categories Richie mentions are things you might discuss in a review, but is not the level of detail you want for "rating" something.  Maybe you could include review guidelines or a template that people can start out with, to give the reviews a somewhat more consistent form.

 

If you're going to add waterproofness to jacket/glove reviews, you should also add a category for how well they breathe.  Also, the optimal number/layout of pockets is somewhat subjective; it's probably better to just include more information in the item description about that sort of thing, rather than making it a "rating" per se.  Same with boot liners/buckles/power strap.  (e.g. "*****" on "buckles" would be less helpful to me than, say, "four buckles, ratcheting with micro-adjustment".)

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