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Hi all. I'm a relative newbie here but have been reading for a few months and getting some great info.  Id appreciate any suggestions for an East Coast Soft Snow ski to add to my volkl super sport allstar carvers. Basically a ski for softer snow, and quick dashes into the trees for pow on those rare occasions. The twist to this thread is i would like to try one of the more independent companies.  Relevant info as follows:

 

43 years old and feeling all of it. .e.g don't have the leg strength and stamina I used to. I can charge hard, and make super quick turns for fun or to escape but right now its more about the legs then much else.

6 foot and about 173lb

Been skiing of an on for 20 years-prefer smaller snappy turns but love high speed groomer GS turns

Thinking it should be a fun, lively snappy type ski to contrast my heavyish 168 volkl supersport motion allstars. Mine are 168 and they are defiantly a drop on the short side.  I had them out on  slushy day last week and they were a bit too "hooky" for less then hard pack to my liking.

 

 

This year out west I tried the dynastar Mythic rider on an epic pow day and while I had a great day i thought they were boring and felt "hard" on groomers and needed too much speed to get going.  

 

Had a great day on post pow crud and soft pow on large and long rossi S7 (rocker, with sidecut). first Rossi i ever liked. Hated the older B2-3.  Really like them but they are probably too big and heavy for east coast.

 

Tried a watea on a groomer hard pack day-- think it was a 90 ish-- but have no memory of them so i couldn't have been too impressed. 

 

So overall looking for something for softer spring conditions or pow, fun, quick turning but with ability to test the limits if necessary.

 

Short list:

 

Line Prophet 90 or 100- 181cm

Liberty Hazamat at 181

High Society Free ride in a shortish length like a 179

Moment Tahoes -length unknown

Movement Thunders

And of course then there is the ever present Mojo 90 and Gotamas

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions comments. Demos are hard with these smaller manufacturers

 

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Howdy,

 

What is the deal on "more independent companies"? I ask because while they make great ski's, Line was recently bought by K2.  I really enjoyed the Prophet 100 on a decent (not deep but relatively recent new snow day) out in Colorado. If it is a "principle" kind of thing and your personal juju will be offended, maybe pass on the Line's.  Otherwise, I really liked the P100.

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wallee. thanks for the quick reply. I know line was bought by K2....but its "allegedly technically independant" and its got great word of mouth, despite being dissed by some hardcores at my last alta visit and being generally disliked at TGR.

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wallee. thanks for the quick reply. I know line was bought by K2....but its "allegedly technically independant" and its got great word of mouth, despite being dissed by some hardcores at my last alta visit and being generally disliked at TGR.

 

If you fit into the general demographic of the "hardcores" or the "TGR crowd" then you should be looking at what they recommend. If not, trust your own demo results rather than third party advice.

 

IE:

 

You thought that the MR was "hard". You're right, it is. That should tell you to ignore stiffer skis. The S7 is a superb powder specialty ski but if you thought it was too.....(heavy or whatever).....fine, ignore that too. If you don't remember anything at all about the Watea 94 that actually might be a good thing since you don't remember anything negative and it IS very good at what you asked for. I'd suggest you take one last whack at the 94 head to head with one of the Lines; probably the P-100, and choose between the two.

 

I guess the alternative would be to just to take the word of someone else and buy what they like. There is at least some chance that it'll be good for you as well.

 

SJ

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Stockli Snake Coral or Stockli Stormrider TT. 

Both are Isocore skis and easily managed.

The wood-core Stocklis tend to be burlier.

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Sierra Jim

 

thanks for the post. Very informative as has all the other posts i have read of yours.

Nothing is absolute and will not buy on a total rec'd from a forum, but wanted --as many others-- to get as much info as possible.

 

Despite an alta/snowbird  week here or two, I am definitely NOT in the TGR crowd-but like to check the forums for info.  To paraphrase some other post, the Line diss by some of the shop rats I usually demo from is most likely a blatant case of the Alta :"we have no attitude, attitude that they give attitude about". LOL. Still like the mountain and snow though....

 

Thanks for the suggestions, Ill try and demo the watea again and i have a sneaking suspicion that it's light weight will make it worth another East coast tight tree demo.  Ill try and demo the lines as well.....

 

Quick ill look at the stockli line....

 

 

 

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IMO for east pow - which tends to last part of one day at best before it's chop and bumps - agree about the Watea 94, you might also look at a number of skis that folks find versatile and easy maneuvering, since you specifically state that you're interested in trees and leg strength and stamina are issues:

 

K2 Extreme, many think this is the ultimate do-everything soft snow ski. Not super light.

Head Mojo 90, many still around from past seasons. Light and grippy.

Salomon Gun, but keep the edges sharp. Very easy and forgiving but solid.

Blizzard Cronus, higher speed limit than the others, the grippiest, and very wiggly in bumps. Light.

Scott Mission, double radius makes it quick but stable. Not super light. 

 

If you want a great indie ski for tight spaces that's extremely easy, surfy feeling in pow, a bit wider, the Prior Doughboy. But not super light. Some of the soft Bros would also be light and easy to swing through tight places although they'll be stiffer than most of the above.

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