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post #1 of 7
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Now I realize that fit can not be done in the forum - the best fit is with a boot fitter - I'm just looking for suggestions.

 

Not sure where to start other than my toes are numb and cold...there I said it. I have spent the better part of this season working on my boots with the boot fitter at my local store. This boot fitter comes recommended from people that I have met etc..etc.. and is the same one that originally fit the boots.

 

Them: boots are Lange Comp 120fr's, custom foot bed, power straps. The liners have about 200 days on them. Boots were shell fitted.

Me: I'm 6-2 ish @ 190 and a level 6-7 skier - more of a finesse skier than power, high arch, low volume foot, 2nd toe longer on the right foot. I wear ‘thin’ wool socks. I also have a lot of veining on the back of my ankle and on top of the foot.

 

Originally the boots had fitted not bad, and any pressure points have been worked out, but always had space problems in the toe box - the right foot the toes are tight across, the left not so much so. I also have some numbness in the big toe on both feet. I have had the box on both feet widened and this helps but still needs more (doing this as we speak/type). The original foot beds have been replaced (the old ones were cut to 3/4 to give more room in the toe box - but broke down & arch collapse) but this hasn't made much of a difference. The new beds (full) have more 'filler' underneath. I usually run with the 1st & 2nd buckles undone when the temp is in the 20’s.

I change socks at mid day and throw hand warmers in the boot on the way to the hill and at lunch. At the end of the day I am not a happy person.

 

I’m getting to the point that frustration is setting in and the boot fitter is probably tired of seeing me (now we are talking about 5 or 6 visits) – I am starting to think (first problem 8-) ) that either I’m not communicating well or he doesn’t know his stuff OR could I have a undiagnosed issue with my feet.

 

Would I need to recheck cuff alignment with new foot beds?

 

 

Comments please on how to progress..

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 7

do your feet still go numb/cold, with the boots on inside?

is it just cold?  (hottronics)

 

better with thinner socks?

better with toe buckles off (not just loose)

 

drying the liners out at night?

 

numb/cold better without ANY footbed.  (then grind the boot board thinner, and add the footbed back)

 

post #3 of 7
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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post

 

do your feet still go numb/cold, with the boots on inside?

 

No..

is it just cold?  (hottronics)

 

Don't know if there is room for heaters - but could look into it..

 

better with thinner socks?

 

I'm already wearing thin with no padding..

better with toe buckles off (not just loose)

 

No..

 

drying the liners out at night?

 

Yes - have that little turkey looking thing from Thermic..

 

numb/cold better without ANY footbed.  (then grind the boot board thinner, and add the footbed back)
 

Never tried, remove material from the bottom or the top? How much are we talking here? Is there a danger of messing things up? 

 

 

 

post #4 of 7

hottronics take up less then 1mm,   you should be fine

 

for more room, removing material from the bottom of the boot board.

 

best to see your local guys with some new ideas,   Grinding a bootboard is easy to screw up yourself, adn you can talk to him/her about volume and bootheaters

post #5 of 7

It sounds as if you may have a few problems of which the first is not enough toe room.  Remember there is never a guarantee of warm toes regardless of space, but your description makes it clear you want more toe room.

 

It isn't necessarily a lack of skill on the part of the fitter that limits toe room.  Perhaps it is simply the wrong boot or shell fit for you.

 

Lou

post #6 of 7
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mntlion/Lou

Thanks for the input, I had the toe box opened up and the boot board dropped. This past weekend was better, not great, but better. To give you an idea of my foot - think of doing up you running shoes and the only place that you feel snug is at the top lace. In a boot, the fore foot, ankle, heel is handshake snug but the area where the 'lace' would be in slightly more than 'handshake' and I would think restricts the blood flow in the veining on the top of the foot.

 

Opinion wanted..

 

Both the fitter and another fitter in the same shop have suggested that I may have a better fit with a "new" boot (2010 Lange Blaster & a Rossi model) giving more room over the top of the foot while having a narrow heel that I need - stating that some models have changed in recent times that may provide a better fit than what I get now. Also, I would find more comfort in a more relaxed boot - stating that the Comp120FR is more of a 'race' fit (I dont race).  I'm trying to figure out if this is a sales pitch or not and while I would spend the money if I could get what I want (comfort & control) I don't want to spend the $$ just to find myself in the same boat again.

My better half (smarter half ) has suggested that I should try another shop to see what they suggest. Now this isn't like buying a car where I can kick some tires, take a test drive and say no thanks - the store puts time and effort into the boot fit, even before 'moding' takes place.

Both of you - as bootfitters & I suspect shopowner(s), can I expect, that I would be welcomed as a customer, to walk into a store and ask what boot would you put me into, do some basic fitting, and then have me say thanks and walk out (like kicking the tires)? And do this at a number of places. Would I expect that I could formulate an opinion - that if 2 or 3 places suggested boot 'X' that I'm somewhat close to a starting point & if I get 3 different answers - I guess that means I have more options.

It can be a long process and expensive one at that with no guarantee of a solution.

 

 

post #7 of 7

Try other stores, see what fits best, but then just buy if from that store that helped you.

 

odds are any store will tell you that brand XYZ is the best for your foot, but they usually only know the brands that they sell, and that XYZ is the best that they have.  

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