RR & RPTW, I agree 100%. The last and ONLY time I was there was 8 years ago. Sounds like nothing has changed for the better. I had to laugh when I read this:
Originally Posted by RatherPlayThanWork
Their "ski lodge"/tennis bubble has one of the most digusting smells ever. Sweat & fried foods. They closed the bar to open a new smaller bar/restaurant. It has like 6 items on the menu...no burgers, no wings, about 10 small tables. Don't most places turn a good profit on food & beverages? Seems like they are trying not to.
After seeing that I had to dig up an old post I made following my trip there in 2001. It's a long one and was in response to a guy who used to post raves about Mtn. Creek over on the ancient "rec.skiing.alpine" newsreader thingy. Maybe Barry is even here now under a name I don't recognize. Somebody probably even knows him. So wth all due respect to him, I will now re-post my rant as it was 8 years ago just to prove that Mtn. Creek has never stopped sucking (for me anyhow).
Here it is, as it was. Notice my food and stench comments! And I will never ever go back until they at least tear down that deranged cabriolet (whose sole purpose BTW - is to accomodate summer mtn. bikers - not skiers):
"OK, after listening to Barry Backer rave about Mountain Creek for the past
two years, I finally had to cave in and check it out and here's my own, very
long winded personal assessment (with comparisons to Hunter Mtn. since I had
originally expressed considerable disbelief with respect to comments about
Hunter being "obsolete" compared to Mtn. Creek):
I was there on Friday, 1/12/01, with my 10 yr. old son (a skier) and made a point
to ski every trail on the mountain
1) It saved me 1 hr. travel time vs. Hunter.
2) It's a GREAT place if you're tail grabbing Generation X'er, or if you just no longer
have the knees for banging bumps. Excellent job with the terrain parks.
This place is clearly geared toward the snowboard/skied once before/bus
trip/two days a year/retired and hanging with the ski club crowd.
Judging by the crowds there on Friday, they seemed to have hit their target
group. There were snowboarders everywhere, and most of the skiers I saw were
low intermediates and older folks just out to enjoy a slow cruise on a
beautiful sunny day. I saw almost nobody who fit my type of skiing profile
except for a few high school racer types.
3) Good snow cover on all trails with pretty decent grooming.
4) Appeared to be a pretty efficient layout for the rental crowd at Vernon
Base. Looks like an efficient system for getting new skiers out and on the
5) Nice meandering, relaxing, runs through the woods with a few short steep
pitches for skiers just busting out of the Intermediate rut.
6) Good skiing for the intermediate skiing family, or those with
adrenaline pumped young boarders.
7) Pretty nice lift system at South, with some fun, sunny runs and at least
one spot to make a few nice fast GS turns (on Big Bear).
8) Great idea with the 8 hr. lift ticket. One of the best strategies I've
seen. Probably the best reason I would go back again.
1) I predict this is going to be Typical Mountain Creek: While we're getting
lunch (5 mins.) someone steals my son's gaiter off of our lunch table.
Never had that happen at Hunter yet. There is clearly a larger proportion of
clientele that you'd better keep your eye on at Mtn.Creek, than I'm used to
seeing at Hunter. Sounds impossible, but I'll tell you, on Friday at least,
I felt like I was on a school bus trip to the Bronx Zoo.
2) More crowded than a typical Friday at Hunter. Snowboarders everywhere.
3) Very little to keep advanced skiers happy. No moguls. The moguls on Zero
G had unskiable bulletproof FRGR between them all day long. By contrast, one
week prior at Hunter had beautiful, soft, well spaced bumps the entire
length of Anapurna. Even K-27 had better snow. HUNTER STILL MAKES BETTER
QUALITY SNOW! Or maybe it's just the weather/altitude there. Every trail at
Hunter was open last week and the skiing was FAR FAR FAR more challenging
and more interesting. I had a real workout last week. I couldn't get one at
4) My son skied Pipe Line (the only Double Diamond) and after about 10 turns he
said, "dad that's not a double diamond!" Well, it is, but it's just very
5) The Cabriolet Lift is absurd! I hate that thing. I realize it's a good
people mover, but it's a lousy way to ride back up every 2-3 minutes.It
should never be used as a primary ski lift. The triple at Vernon was not
running, so you never had a chance to get off your feet.
6) The food at the main Vernon base lodge was hideous. Four choices of food
and all of them lousy. By contrast, the food in the Hunter base lodge is
always quite qood. They have great homemade soups and lunch specials. Mtn.
Creek's was total CRAP! Sorry.
7) There was a penetrating, vile smell of vomit which permeated the base
lodge and smacked you in the face every time you walked in from outside. I
don't know if this was just a problem on that day, but my son was covering
his nose and so were quite a few people who were there. You could not escape
Mtn. Creek is a nice place for a relaxed day of weekday cruising. It beats
working. You will never see a carload of good skiers arrive in the
parking lot for a challenging day of skiing. I will spend the extra hour and
go to Hunter or JiminyPeak (which also kicks the living crap out of Mtn.
Creek as far as terrain for advanced skiers goes).
You will still get more VERTICAL at Hunter on the high speed quad, and
probably even on the older West side lift than you'll get at Mtn. Creek.
It's a FACT.
If you are an Intermediate skier - by all means - try Mtn. Creek. For you,
Mtn. Creek may be a better choice than Hunter. It's a good Intermediate
mountain for a couple of days. More than that and you'll be bored.
If you're a tail-grabber, definitely go and enjoy the excellent terrain
parks and half pipes.
I spent my day playing around. Skiing with no poles, boots unbuckled,
practicing technique - trying to attain a pure carve at a slow speed. It's
good for that, and I had an enjoyable, relaxing day in general. I had to do
a lot of maneuvering between the snowplowers though.
Mountain Creek will get better (maybe), but it's direction seems pretty clear - The
Six Flags crowd meets A.A.R.P. and they all got along just dandy."