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Throwing myself to the fire

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I have learned alot reading the responses to others videos, and have worked up the courage to have friends tape me skiing. I submit these videos so that the collective wisdom here can help me improve!


Here are the things that I have been working on this year - as you will see, they clearly require MUCH more work!

  • Removing the rotary motion from my skiing - actually getting better, but as I can see from the videos, I have a long way to go yet
  • Getting more weight on the downhill ski - especially when I get nervous and want to overcontrol teh skis, I put far to much weight on the uphill ski. Its been a trust thing for me to get my weight up and over the downhill ski
  • Completing my turns - using patience to turn NOT my heels. You will see that I snap to the next turns, the tops are nice and round and the I quickly cut off the bottom of the turns.


Any advice or drills to correct these or other problems you see is most welcome!






post #2 of 8

We look alike when we ski.

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You look like you are in the backseat to me.

post #4 of 8

Watching the video it looks like you've got a good start on things and I don't see much hesitation moving down the slope.


Poke around and look for threads on Pivot Slips and "Independent leg Steering" (ILS) to get an idea on how to get your legs turning under your body.  Your upper body currently follows the skis around each turn. ILS will help with steering and controlling the skis more accurately and you'll improve your ability to turn the skis under your body while the upper body remains more stable and turns less. This will help produce some 'counter' (pelvis & upper-body facing more to the outside of each turn).


Once you've some working ILS in place and a bit of counter developing you'll be in a much better position to work on the other 3.7 Billion things we like to talk about around here.  Without it, most other things will be difficult to implement or may even become problematic.






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Hi Lovebug. 

Yes, it takes some courage to post one's skiing up for the world to see and abuse.  Rest easy, we have good people here who try to be as constructive and helpful as possible.  Everyone has things they need to work on if they want to move their skiing to the next level.  Those who have the courage to examine those technical issues and work on them are the ones who will experience the most success and discover new forms of enjoyment this sport has to offer. 


Ok, on with my MA.  The list of things you're working on are well chosen.  Your upper body rotary (using an aggressive twisting of your upper body to turn your skis) is not too bad.  I'm not too concerned with that aspect of your skiing right now.  You do have some rotary issues showing up in the top half of your turns that can be seen in the interaction of your skis with the snow, born of a general rushing of your turn initiations, but I'll get back to that later.


In this video your lateral balance looks OK.  I don't see any major inside ski overweighting problems here.  This is a very important area in skiing.  You do have some leaning in with the whole body, which may jump up to cause you problems when slopes get steeper and terrain gets tougher.  And it will definately need to be changed when you want to start carving turns later down the road.  These flatter slopes while steering turns is the best place to sort it out.  There are a number of drills that can help.  All of them strive to help you keep your torso vertical and your shoulders level to the snow as you turn.  Legs tip, body remains upright, and an angle at the waist is created.  To make it happen, try lifting your inside shoulder and hip as you tip your skis on edge to turn. 


Completing your turns.  This has to do with turn shape, and is where you need to place much of your focus right now.  As I said before, your turns are starting too aggressively.  There's too much tail push and rushing the first half of the turn happening right now, and you need to keep turning longer and more out of the falline through the bottom half of your turns.  Because you're not currently turning far enough out of the falline, you're using a wide skid angle through the body of your turns to control your speed, and a rushed/pushed initiation of your turns to achieve that wide skid track.  Try doing some turns where you see how subtly you can begin your turns, and how long you can delay reaching a point where your skis are pointing down the falline,,,, then keep turning through the bottom half of your turn until you're almost going uphill and you feel your speed beginning to taper off,,, then repeat a series of these smooth turns.  You should feel a roller coaster senstation,,, speeding up through the top half of the turn, and slowing down through the bottom half.  Make these turns big so you have much time to feel the entire process, then condense them into smaller versions of the same quality. 


Hope that helps.  No way to explain all this in text alone.  Check out my website for more comprehensive learning options. 





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I like your overall movement from turn to turn.  You can still improve your body position over the outside ski which will help with your weight not falling to the inside of the turn.  A drill that will help you on easy terrain is lifting the tail of the inside ski through the turn.  Once mastered on easy terrain, repeat the drill on more moderate terrain so you can ski only on one ski at a time (just the outside ski).  To integrate this drill into your skiing, ski with both skis on the snow, but be able to lift the tail of the inside ski at any time.



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Thanks for your comments - they were really helpful. After two weeks off of snow, I spent the day skiing with Noofus (aka Pine Barron), Cbire and Mrs.Cbire as well as a non-bear friend of ours. My husband noted that it was difficult to find me as my technique had dramatically impoved. I will continue to work on the drills and ideas you all gave me and plan on ending the season alot stronger and more confident than I started.


Thanks again!!

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Stop the video at :09 seconds.  That wide stance is no help and somewhat of a hindrance.  Make your stance walking-width wide.  If you aren't heavy on the inside foot, I'd be surprised.  The drill to lift the tail of the old outside ski at the end of a turn then make the turn keeping the ski tail lifted until the end of that turn is a very good one.  (At the end of a right turn, lift the tail of the left ski, then make your left turn.)


At :10 seconds you look like your heels are under your center of mass.  You want the center of your feet, or maybe closer to the ball of the foot, under the CoM.  Pull your inside foot back strongly during each and every turn.  This will help you center.  Sidestep diagonally backwards uphill and note the feel of your shins on the boot tongue.  Ski with this feeling on your shins 99.99% of the time.


Yes, your upper body is inflexible.  Do the tail-lift drill first.  Do it a lot.  Then learn the inside foot pullback as a skiing movement, not a drill, and do it all the time.  Now, put both poles out to the sides and strongly drag both pole tips on the snow.  Keep the tips, both tips, firmly down on the snow as you make your turns.  After a couple of runs doing this, add one piece.  With your arms in the same positions, counter-rotate your upper body to the outside of the turn no later than by the time you reach the fall line.  If you're making a right turn, twist your hips & trunk to the outside, the left. 


Make these movements one at a time, and get them somewhat automatic before you try the next.  Or try one after the other and repeat the first a lot, then repeat the second, then the third, then the fourth.

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