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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

Hey Guys,

 

I got a few questions on gs suits and shorts:

 

1) where can i find the best prices on new suits? I have been looking at www.ski-racing.com and they seem like they have great prices at $199 for most of the suits.

 

2) Which suits do you find the best for a low price, warmth comfort, padding?

 

3) What size would you recomend to last for a few years? I am 5'8" and 130 lbs. I wear a 28/30 jean.

 

4) Where can I get cheap training shorts?

 

5) Are they worth it?

 

6) Once again size that will last a few years?

 

Thanks alot in advance

post #2 of 15

1) and 2) padding varies suit to suit. GS suits have more padding than downhill suits. you can purchase padding to go under a downhill suit if you want to get more mileage out of it. I find a standard GS suit works for all disciplines, at this level anyway. I like padding on spyder and phenix. dont like Carbons. but it is a matter of taste and gate bashing ability.

 

3) try them on. even if you buy on line, find it in a shop or that brand in a shop and try it. they vary greatly.

 

4) Sales. try racewerks or Artech ski. Summer sales at any ski shop would be a great place to find deep discounts

 

5) Sit your gs suit clad butt on a cold chair lift for one ride and you will find out if they are worth it!  Actually, if you train slalom, they are necessary. the gates will rip the hell out of your full ski pants from the knees down, shorts are a good way to go. GS not so much, pants with the full side zip are fine.

 

6) whatever size fits your cold butt is the best...a little larger if you are still growing, but dont ski out of a training run because your shorts are around your ankles....this is SKI racing, after all, not snowboarding. Plumbers cracks are not popular in our discipline.

 

 

post #3 of 15

Checkout www.Artechski.com. Everything is 15% off right now and I believe free shipping on orders over $200.00

 

The have spyder and Beeson (Austrian ski team) and a few others!

post #4 of 15

Generally agree with the posts above. A few additional thoughts:

 

1 - The absolutely best prices are going to be found either on eBay or in the classifieds for one of your local race clubs. eBay is, of course, more of a crapshoot, but there are very low prices, at least if you're willing to go for something that's not a major name brand (i.e. not Spyder). A lot of race clubs have online classifieds in some form or another. You're small enough that there are quite a few juniors your size ... or who were your size last season, and now have a suit that doesn't fit.

 

3 - I think the charts that Artech has are probably pretty accurate. The best method is to find someone your size and ask what he or she wears.

 

5 - I like the shorts for wearing at races. Full pants are just too difficult to get off, put on and drag around when you've got numerous other things to worry about.

 

6 - The benefit of shorts is you don't really need to worry too much about anything other than the waist size. Given the relationship between your height and weight, I doubt anything that fits your waist will be too long. If you get shorts with suspenders, you'll be fine if you're a bit big in the waist. Even if they don't have suspenders, the clip-on ones should work fine.

post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 

thanks guys. How is theraceplace.com for stuff? the suits and shorts there seem to be the lowest prices around. I was looking at the descente suit and the karbon shorts with suspenders. how are they?

post #6 of 15

The Holmer family owns The Race Place. Long time race parents, and really great to do business with. I've found them really helpful over the years. They'll do things that others sometimes won't....go pull the stock and measure it for you over the phone, etc. Scott is the owner, Connie is his wife. Son Eric was a great speed skier at the Nor-Am and Europa Cup level and is now teching for Errol Kerr, team Jamaica.

 

As far as fit on the various brands, they all vary. Spyder tends to run a full size smaller. Descente is more true to size. In some cuts, Karbon is generous. But it varies based on the fabric, padding, etc. Best if you can try it on in person, which is hard. But, a good on-line shop can help you. Worst case is that they ship you one size, and if not right, you return it to exchange. I've has some people hold the other size, in case it's needed. In other situtations, I've had both sizes shipped with the understanding that I would return the one that didn't fit right away. Normally, if I haven't had a prior relationship, I've paid for both sizes and been credited for one upon the return.

 

Race Place, ARTECH, RaceWerks, SRD, RRS.....all can be helpful over the phone.

 

Good luck.

post #7 of 15
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Generally agree with the posts above. A few additional thoughts:

 

 

6 - The benefit of shorts is you don't really need to worry too much about anything other than the waist size. Given the relationship between your height and weight, I doubt anything that fits your waist will be too long. If you get shorts with suspenders, you'll be fine if you're a bit big in the waist. Even if they don't have suspenders, the clip-on ones should work fine.

 

Definitely recommend shorts with built in suspenders, hard to run gates if your shorts are halfway down your a## like a snowboarder!!.  Personally I like the ones that are stretchy/elasticated or whatever you want to call them i.e a close fit rather than hanging loose.  I had the karbon ones that failed on both counts, I now use the Dianese shorts which are excellent fit and also have removeable (plastic) thigh pads which come in very useful when you are as poor a slalom skier as me and end up taking gates higher up on your body.  WRT suits, I have used Loius garneau, Fila and spyder.  Spyder definitely seems to have the most substantial padding, almost too restrictive till you get it bedded in.  the padding on my Garneau suit is pretty basic and does not provide a lot of protection.

post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 

anybody have any experience with the descente suit on raceplace?

post #9 of 15

Obermeyer made their first foray into race gear this year with Stretch Training Shorts.  We have them in M, L, and XL.  Price has just been cut and shipping is free.

 

Our supply of Spyder GS and DH suits is running out for this season but they are 40% off with free shipping.


You might find a few other things of interest in our Race Center.


Edited by patmoore - 2/24/2009 at 04:48 pm


Edited by patmoore - 2/24/2009 at 04:48 pm
post #10 of 15

I used to have a descente suit for 2 years and thought i liked it, but it was always seemed to be saggy in the butt and tight everywhere else.  I believe it was a medium suit and i was 5'7 135lbs.

 

This past season i got a Fuxi suit. fuxiracingusa.com, It is my favorite suit i have ever had for several reason, it fits very nicely all around.

the design pattern was very cool. I had the blue and white and got complements at almost every race i was it.

It also had removable pads.  This is the best feature in any suit i have ever seen.  I would take them out for sl and only keep certain pads in for gs.  This is a major help for flexibility and comfort.  The suit is made by beyond-x but i have not seen any other beyond-x suits with the removable pads.  I wore a medium this season but im getting a large for next year as i am 5'8 150lbs, so for you id get a large

 

Franz Fuchsberger is the owner of the company.  He started selling out if the back of a trailer in govy (goverment camp) out at mt. Hood Oregon.  Now he is going to have two shops there this summer.  He has great service and can get you a good deal if you tell him you heard about his company from Matt Chirico.  he does alot of his service online so check out his site fuxiracingusa.com/.

 

 

post #11 of 15
I was just looking around the forums and I completely support and endorse Fuxi and his products. He stands behind his product, uses them himself and is about as generous a guy as you'll find in the business.

Plus he 'loves ski racing as much as you do!'

Love ya Fuxi! Now keep yourself in one piece so we can have a real race at Cooper next year!

MR
post #12 of 15
For racewear, I've heard many good things about Kalti.
http://www.haltiusa.com/images/2044_Club_OB0910.pdf

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Originally Posted by MastersRacer View Post

I was just looking around the forums and I completely support and endorse Fuxi and his products. He stands behind his product, uses them himself and is about as generous a guy as you'll find in the business.

Plus he 'loves ski racing as much as you do!'

Love ya Fuxi! Now keep yourself in one piece so we can have a real race at Cooper next year!

MR
I bought a pair of Fuxi goggles for my daughter through our club. When they started fogging up in a race day after less than a season of gentle use, I called them inquiring about the warranty. Fuxi wanted nothing to do with my call/claim and instantly referred me to Rooly, who manufactured their goggles. According to Rooly, contrary to the attached post above, Fuxi don't always stand behind their products. They also mentioned that they no longer make their products for them. They steered me to purchase directly from Rooly and offered me 50% for the entire purchase (including additonal items). I understand the potential conflict involved and I shouldn't take one's word over another, but at least Rooly offered the replacement at a discount, which is far more than what Fuxi did for me. And, they seemed more than happy to handle my claim.
post #13 of 15
I'm sorry and a bit surprised to hear about your experience. I do know that the problem with fogging was not isolated. He has made changes to his goggles and has corrected the problem with many people I know that have them. If you still have them, try again. He may have another pair of lenses for you now. Keep me posted.

Tell him Doug, the downhill meister, says hi. I'm sorry I didn't get to Govy to hang with him this summer. We are 'brothers from a different mother' (his words, not mine ).

MR
post #14 of 15
 I happened to be your same exact size last year. :) I bought a large Karbon GS Suit, its a bit saggy in some parts last year, but now its good and i still have room to grow at 5'11". I would recommend any Karbon GS Suit, I have had Three. They tend to be on the thicker side. Either way your going to be cold before the start if its below 15 Degrees.

And as for the training shorts. These aren't nessasary at all. I have Spider Full Zip Snowpants, and they have a zipper at the knees to take off the bottom of the legs so they are basically snowpants and training shorts
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by patmoore View Post

Obermeyer made their first foray into race gear this year with Stretch Training Shorts.  We have them in M, L, and XL.  Price has just been cut and shipping is free.

 

Our supply of Spyder GS and DH suits is running out for this season but they are 40% off with free shipping.


You might find a few other things of interest in our Race Center.


Edited by patmoore - 2/24/2009 at 04:48 pm


Edited by patmoore - 2/24/2009 at 04:48 pm

Well, my season is winding down, I ended up borrowing an old suit from a friend... didnt fit well but it got the job done. Ironically I ended up with those exact obermeyer shorts after the zipper on my pants broke at a race when the temps were below zero. Did i mention the suit i borrowed had an embarrasingly revealingly thin crotch? It was also lime green. Solid lime green... I am definately thinking loius garneau suit in a large this year... After what i went through this year, anything that fits better and isnt amazingly restrictive will do. Maybe a new suit will make me worse though because the old one kept me out of the backseat, it just shot me right back up esp in slalom with shin gaurds holding it down.. Thanks for all the help guys, this was my first year racing. Im hooked, planing on racing club next year instead of hs only.
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