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Looking for a versatile East Coast carver...

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

Hi all-

 

I'm really new here, but have already gleaned so much from the site -- thanks to all for that.

 

I'm looking to replace my trusty Volkl P40 Platinums (193) with some new boards.  I'm 6'3" & 208 +/-, 34, a former racer & instructor, and a strong, but not ridiculously aggressive, level 9(?) skier.  I like skiing the whole mountain -- from groomers to the Alta chutes, with some bumps for good measure, if they aren't rock-hard. 

 

Recently, I had the pleasure of skiing the Monster 88's (186) for three days in Jackson Hole, including an awesome morning with Bob Peters.  Loved the skis -- they could easily be my go-to board out West.  Loved the solid feel, sweet mid-high speed carve, and versatility of the boards all over the mountain... then I got back on my P40's back east and realized I need new boards!!!

 

Anyhow, ideally I would like a carving-based ski with a mid-to-high teen's radius, excellent edge grip, a somewhat damp feel, and the versatility to handle East Coast spring crud as well as our standard "hard pack." (cough...ice..cough).  I have no problem demoing wider skis when I head out west...

 

I'm not going to have the chance to demo too many - if any - boards, but want to take advantage of this season's blow-out sales... A few skis that have spiked my interest include the SS Magnums (177), Top Fuels (length TBD), and 4x4's (TBD).  Any suggestions & comments would be really helpful! 

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 13

I have the magnums in 177 and am 25 lbs lighter and slightly lower in skill than you.  I don't think these are the skis for you as they are pretty easy going and might not be ideal at your weight.  First thing that came to mind was the Head iSupershape Speed though I haven't been on them personally, they get great reviews from others here.  Lots of people like the 4X4 also, but I haven't been able to ski them yet.  Good friend has the Volkl Tigershark 10ft and loves them, rail on ice and are super stable at speed.

 

Good luck with your search! 

post #3 of 13

The Top Fuel and Contact 4X4 are both very good choices for a versatile hard snow ski. Both can handle your weight in the 178 length. We had a 5 week spell of no snow out here in Tahoe and the snow got pretty danged hard. I skied every one of our hard snow biased demos during that period and those were the two standouts in the mid 70 width range.

 

SJ

post #4 of 13

Isn't the 4x4 more of a 20 radius ski.

 

Have you looked at the Stockli Laser SC in 177? That is a sweeeet carver. Perfect the the east coast.

 

The 177 has a 16 radius.

 

Johnny

post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks everyone!  I'll definitely keep the 4x4, Top Fuel, and Laser SC on my radar screen.  Having been out of the equipment  loop for some time (little kids soak up the time!), this is really helpful!

 

Best,

 

Gian

post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by gfabbri View Post

 

Thanks everyone!  I'll definitely keep the 4x4, Top Fuel, and Laser SC on my radar screen.  Having been out of the equipment  loop for some time (little kids soak up the time!), this is really helpful!

 

Best,

 

Gian

Hey, Gian.

 

Don't just automatically rule out the SS Magnum.  I was on the 177cm that morning you and I skied together.  I can't remember if I offered to swap skis with you, but I wish I had since it turns out you're looking for a ski like that.  I wish you could have tried mine because I certainly do like them for hard snow (and soft snow as well).  I've also skied the Stockli Laser SC and I find the two skis pretty similar as far as hard snow is concerned.

 

Another thought for you might be the Head World Cup iSpeed.  I have that one in a 180cm and it's a dream on hard snow.

 

If I remember right, I think maybe I owe you some photos?  I got kind of behind what with all the Epic people who were here the last couple weeks.  I'm still wading through all my back email.

post #7 of 13

I think the Rossignol CX80 in a 170cm (it's stiff) is exactly what you're looking for.

 

FWIW I use my Head 88's as an all-purpose east coast ski-but in 175cm length-I love it.

post #8 of 13
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I think the Rossignol CX80 in a 170cm (it's stiff) is exactly what you're looking for.

 

It is stiff but it is also one of the best skis to have a rooster on it in a very long time. 

post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

 

Hey, Gian.

 

Don't just automatically rule out the SS Magnum.  I was on the 177cm that morning you and I skied together.  I can't remember if I offered to swap skis with you, but I wish I had since it turns out you're looking for a ski like that.  I wish you could have tried mine because I certainly do like them for hard snow (and soft snow as well).

 

There seems to be developments in the ss Magnum world.  It appears that the new ones are a bit stiffer.  I will report later when I get them back.

Factory 'tune' is as atrocious as ever. Apparently 'Intelligence' has not been incorporated into Head's finishing department yet.

 

The Rossi CS 70 looks like a nice ski also.

post #10 of 13

The Volkl AC30 177 or 184 would be an awesome ski and does all the things you want them to do VERY, VERY well. It would be my choice.

 

I was on the Top Fuel's (178?) a week ago. The most effortless ski I've been on... Tons on grip, Good flex, Nice dampness, took no work to turn. BUT, I didn't like how the tails were hesitant to release and how when pushed hard the tip flapped around... I would definately find the time to demo these. You'll either love them or hate them... There is something magical about them... hmm...

post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks all for the great suggestions!

 

I’ve ended up snagging a nice deal from "buckwild" on his 177 Head Supershape Magnums based on Bob’s recommendation & review and a nice write-up on the skis by “songfta”.  The skis fit my goals nicely – perhaps emphasizing versatility over “East coast grip,” but seeing the lightning-fast tracks that Bob P. was laying down with them on some Jackson hardpack has allayed my worries a bit – we’ll see... (of course, Bob's carving may be more archer than arrows, but still...)

 

In any case, I’m looking forward to getting to know the skis – worst case I have a decent ski to teach my kids with & end up demoing the 4x4s, Tigersharks, Top Fuels, AC30's, et.al.  Most importantly, I’m looking forward to retiring my P40’s!

 

Thanks again to all,

 

Gian

 

Bob-  Sending you a PM regarding the photos. All the best! – G

 

post #12 of 13

Salomon Tornado Ti's . . . . .  all you need to know! 

post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

 

It is stiff but it is also one of the best skis to have a rooster on it in a very long time. 

 

Very true although I'm not sure that I'd use CX 80 and versatile in the same sentence. I think that some of the '10 offerings are better in that regard.

 

SJ

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