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0 degree base bevel

post #1 of 11
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Anyone ski with 0 degree base edge?

 

I had my skis base ground with no base edge bevel applied and skied them like that just to see what they felt like. They do hook up very fast but skidded turns are still possible, caving on ice is easier and skidding the top of a turn and then engaging a carve is easy to do. I'm temped to keep them like this.

 

I always thought 0 base edge = impossible to ski?

post #2 of 11
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I always thought 0 base edge = impossible to ski?

Surely you got that impression from the intertubes.  Indeed, flat base edges are skiable.   Whether or not they are desirable is a much more broad question.

 

Have you confirmed with a good true bar that the base edges and bases are indeed flat?  Merely having the skis ground without having a bevel applied is no guarantee that this will be the final condition.

post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by narc View Post

I always thought 0 base edge = impossible to ski?

Surely you got that impression from the intertubes.  Indeed, flat base edges are skiable.   Whether or not they are desirable is a much more broad question.

 

Have you confirmed with a good true bar that the base edges and bases are indeed flat?  Merely having the skis ground without having a bevel applied is no guarantee that this will be the final condition.

 

I haven't yet checked with a true bar and probably should do to be sure. Yes, I did get the 0* = impossible to ski impression from the net (somewhere on this forum I think).

post #4 of 11

you can't ski on a 0 degree base bevel but turn and turn and turn and turn....

post #5 of 11

I don't know, I skied on some skis last week that were under beveled at the tip, and they sucked in variable snow.  They were amazing on pure hardpack and ice, but transitions between hard and soft snow, or any turn that involved skidding, sucked.  Felt like the skis were dragging a boat anchor.  Perhaps if the tune was uniform, that would have helped.

post #6 of 11

When I demoed the Hart Javelin SLs last year, I was amazed by how quickly they hooked up, how tenaciously they hung on, and how clean the turn finish was. Then, oddly, I found them twitchy and hooky in the lift line. Checking with Phil confirmed what I had suspected......0* base bevel. That sure was interesting and I think it would be scary a good bit of the time on our little flat bumps here.

post #7 of 11

I skied a zero degree base bevel thelast two days at Jackson Hole.  I like it, but then again, I'm a freaq.

 

An added bonus is that on the not rare enough occasion when I catch an outside edge, I blame it on the tuneThumbs Up =)

post #8 of 11

After getting my bases ground, with apprehension, I took them out for a spin to see how they'd feel with near 0° base bevel and it was very managable. With a higher performance ski and bullet proof conditions, I imagine I'd have had a different reaction.

post #9 of 11
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Yeah for skidded turns they do have the "dragging a boat anchor" feel and 'scarve' rather than really skid unless you force them.

 

I love how strongly they will hold onto a carve though and since they are SL skis I like them this way, I wouldn't want my other skis to behave like this though!

post #10 of 11

30 years ago we all skied with a zero base bevel!

 

Karl

post #11 of 11

Yeah but we were younger then.

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