here are two more looks at Schmidtiots, the big (fat April) year 06. cool how the down the throat look is hard to grade the steepness, but the shot across the chute from the lip shows it pretty well.

about how much a run is skied: some runs may be skied 50 times, but mostly by the same 10 people. so a run like Schmidiot's on a tough year may only be skied by 10 different skiers. could make extreme categorization for that reason.

Newly inbounds this year,  Not open often.

JF

 There are a few pretty ridiculous lines down the Get Serious chutes at snowbird, which showed up on the map this year as Door #1 through 3

Schmidiot's very rarely gets skied, first Schmidt skied it, then it took about another few years before it even opened and when it did open Eric/Rob Deslauriers tried it and was unsuccessful, a few more years later Robb Gaffney skied it successfully.  From what I have heard there have only been a handful of people ever to ski down Schmidiot's.  As it is rarely open due to snow coverage and then when it is open, the skier must have the ability to ski it and the cojones to do it is another thing all together.

This is in North America, but I don't think it is "in bounds" though it could be.  Caribou poop qualifies as "Extreme" IMO, just not sure if it is extremely stinky, sticky, nasty or whatever.  Still a cool TR though.

Skiing Caribou Poop - TR, August 18, 2008

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/71742/skiing-caribou-poop-tr-august-18-2008/0

Naw.  Icicle at Bousquet puts 'em all to shame... 

This is a thread that needs more pictures!!! 

Lol Schmidiot's is just a cliff!

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From what I have heard there have only been a handful of people ever to ski down Schmidiot's....

in 2006 you could ride the sibo chair and see half a dozen people do it in one ride....

i remember one day where schmidiot's and pony express/chimney sweep were just alternating one after another the entire time i was on the chair....

my favorite line to watch people do is middle knuckle in the fingers:

Bob is still looking for one that he considers extreme

I'll second Delerium Dive and SIlver CIty at Sunshine.

Skied an inbounds run at Alpental a few years ago that was God aweful steep.

Can't think of it's name. Anyone?

I can remember someone saying that it's like the 3rd or 4th steepest inbounds run in America.

Those pictures are great Jah!

Killer shots dude

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Newly inbounds this year,  Not open often.

JF

This is Europe or Canada I assume? Which mtn?

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Skied an inbounds run at Alpental a few years ago that was God aweful steep.

 

Can't think of it's name. Anyone?

 

I can remember someone saying that it's like the 3rd or 4th steepest inbounds run in America.

In bounds?  Meaning not in the backcountry?  I have no idea what would fit this description.  If it's there, I haven't found it yet (only skied alpy twice so far).

If inbounds mandatory air is being included in this extreme category such as Kirkwood - Big Jim's (60'-80' mandatory air), then Kirkwood - Hospital Air (127'-132' mandatory air) deserves to be on the list.

These are photos/video of Tyrone Shoelaces skiing Hospital Air & Big Jim's from other EpicSki posts.

Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces 
 

 

 

KIRKWOOD, CA - HOSPITAL AIR

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

KIRKWOOD, CA - BIG JIM'S

 

 

 

 

 

 

SQUAW VALLEY, CA - FINGERS & PALISADES AREAS

 

This youtube clip with a Squaw Powder Day segment from Adventure Film Works "Hustle & Snow" has some lines from various Squaw Valley, CA locations including Nose / Fingers off KT22 & Palisades off Siberia Express.

 

 

 

 

Thanks to Jahroy in a different post for providing the names of the lines in this video in the Squaw Valley, CA - Fingers area:

main air
ring finger
engerbretson's
the box
ice fall
main air
middle knuckle -> box exit

 

 

In the Squaw Valley, CA - Palisades area:

 

Beck's/Chimney 

 

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Newly inbounds this year,  Not open often.

JF

 

This is Europe or Canada I assume? Which mtn?

 

Pretty sure those are the finger chutes above the John Paul Lodge at Snowbasin--a fairly short hike from the top of the Olympic Tram. 
 

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Pretty sure those are the finger chutes above the John Paul Lodge at Snowbasin--a fairly short hike from the top of the Olympic Tram. 
 

yeah I think that's what they are too.   There's 4 of them...maybe 5,I think, depending on how much snow there is and how they fill in.  There is one that is just out of frame of this pic to lookers left is pretty dang rowdy.  .

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SQUAW VALLEY, CA - FINGERS & PALISADES AREAS

 

This youtube clip with a Squaw Powder Day segment from Adventure Film Works "Hustle & Snow" has some lines from various Squaw Valley, CA locations including Nose / Fingers off KT22 & Palisades off Siberia Express.

 

 

 Sick video! They look like ants walking around until they start throwing big airs. Love the music too!

And TS' huck...

Depth makes such a huge difference in the difficulty of certain lines, There were lines skied at Kirkwood in December that looked pretty 'extreme' that are now wide open.  That's why Tyrone's description makes the most sense.  When a line can only be skied on rare occasions, by the right people, that's an extreme line.  Take De Benedetti's line in [i]Steep[/i].  If I remember correctly, it's never been duplicated?  Only holds snow a couple days a year, if at all?

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Originally Posted by Lars 

Skied an inbounds run at Alpental a few years ago that was God aweful steep.

 

Can't think of it's name. Anyone?

 

I can remember someone saying that it's like the 3rd or 4th steepest inbounds run in America.

 

In bounds?  Meaning not in the backcountry?  I have no idea what would fit this description.  If it's there, I haven't found it yet (only skied alpy twice so far).

Upper Independence is the name.

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Newly inbounds this year,  Not open often.

JF

 

This is Europe or Canada I assume? Which mtn?

 

Pretty sure those are the finger chutes above the John Paul Lodge at Snowbasin--a fairly short hike from the top of the Olympic Tram. 
 

You & Tyrone are correct.  They were out of the ski area boundary till this season, & are filling in nicely.  I have skied a couple of them, but not all.  The fiirst one & the one Tyrone is alluding to have narrow chokes even in a big snow year & require well calculated air time to get through.  There's some other very extreme "falling is not an option" stuff higher on the ridge that gets skiable on rare days in a big snow year, but wouldn't count cause they are not in the boundary.
 

Does anyone believe there is a difference between skiing a line, & just getting down it?  I have watched quite a few people "get down" some of these chutes, but not alot actually ski them.  To me you need to be able to link some type of controlled turns &/or use air if neccessary without breaking the flow of the run, & not just straightlining it.

I skied a few of those lines off Palisades at Squaw when I was a youngster.  Chimney Chute is one that I remember, don't think I ever did Schmidiots, as this was before Scot Schmidt was around.  Does anyone remember Rick Sylvester or Steve McKinney?  Those guys were pioneering alot of that stuff in the 70's.

Also, I remember skiing some really steep stuff between Cornice II & Headwall (Weather Chutes)?  

JF

Here's a picture I took earlier this season looking down the middle finger on one of the first days it was open this season. Probably the most skiable of them.

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Does anyone believe there is a difference between skiing a line, & just getting down it?  I have watched quite a few people "get down" some of these chutes, but not alot actually ski them.  To me you need to be able to link some type of controlled turns &/or use air if neccessary without breaking the flow of the run, & not just straightlining it 

 

Some runs are so narrow, turning is not an option.  Once Is Enough and Jim's in early season come to mind.  But if you don't have the skills to make turns once you get past the choke, then you better not drop in.  Once Is Enough in particular, it's longer and steeper than Jim's, and you come out of it pointed directly down the fall line, whereas Jim's puts you across the fall line.  Chimney, Schmidtiots, most of the lines in Palisades, etc are all mandatory straight lines, imo.  With enough snow, you could theoretically make turns on them, but you'd probably piss off all the people wanting to straight line them.
 

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Upper Independence is the name.

Upper International?  It's steep, but not in the same class as the rest of the stuff being discussed here, IMO.

Ya well, there's a difference between runs and cliffs.

how many of the pictures here are actually named runs?

I've skied the fingers at Squaw. Didn't remember seeing trail signs at the top.

Upper International is pretty steep. 50 degrees I think. Steep for inbounds.

The East Wall Chutes at ABasin are quite steep. Willys, North Pole chute.

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Upper International is pretty steep. 50 degrees I think. Steep for inbounds.

 

 50 degrees isn't pretty steep, it's damn steep. I'd be very surprised if it was 50. I'd be very surprised if any ski area in the country could claim a 50 degree inbounds slope for more than a few vertical feet.

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Ya well, there's a difference between runs and cliffs.[/quote]

 

 

how many of the pictures here are actually named runs?

 

I've skied the fingers at Squaw. Didn't remember seeing trail signs at the top.

 

Upper International is pretty steep. 50 degrees I think. Steep for inbounds.

 

The East Wall Chutes at ABasin are quite steep. Willys, North Pole chute.

Definitely agree that there are differences between actual runs that you can ski and pure cliffs.  That is why I didn't bother posting about Big Jim's or Hospital Air in this thread.  Those are pure cliffs and although "named", are definitely not "runs".  So I didn't think they were relevant to this thread (but someone else did so I guess it's up to interpretation).

As far as "how many of pictures here are actual named runs" - At least speaking for Kirkwood...Patrolmans and Heart Chute are.  They aren't on the regular trail map...but Heart Chute has been Heart Chute for...forever.  Hell, Glen Plake talks about it in Blizzard of Ahh's and when was that movie made...late '80s? 

As far the individual lines in the Fingers at Squaw go, no, you won't find a sign at the top that says "Middle Knuckle", or "Extreme Traverse", etc.  But the lines have names to them....

And Upper International at Alpental is indeed very steep...but it is only for a relatively short section at the very top, and then it turns into a bump run. (unless I am recalling a different run.  I've only been to Alpental once and it was a year ago).