EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Need Slow Speed Carving Skis ??
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Need Slow Speed Carving Skis ??

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

Ok Folks this is my first post....I'm 38, 5'8" 185, I ski mentally like I'm 19 still; funny how I now go home after lunch.  I learned to ski NE @ Mad River Glen (long live KVC Comp's) and now ski much kinder NW snow.  I normally ski crud, trees, fresh powder on my K2 Outlaws 174 cm and ski groomers fast on my Volkl Supersport 6-Stars 175 cm.   I love both these skis.  Now however with the wife skiing more and picking up my little ones all day I need a shorter turning ski that I can ski all day.  My ski days are now back up to 30+ after 10 years of averaging less than 5.  That said; I'm still quite new to shape skis and I'm having a hard time landing on the right ski. 

 

So here's what I "think" I want:  Shorter ski (maybe 160 cm), more sidecut (12+/- radius), softer.  

 

So here's how I want to ski it:  Steeps, not high speed, bumps, short radius turns, carving slower speeds, terrain park (jumps only, no features!!), and of course skiing backwards while picking up the kids.    A short quick all mountain ski I can ski all day...is that too much to ask?

 

I would appreciate anyone's suggestions on the right ski and size.   I would prefer used, but it's not crucial.   

 

Cheers,

 

TV


Edited by TVorhies - 2/10/2009 at 06:40 am
post #2 of 16

Check out the Salomon Equipe SC Race.

 

They are great slalom skis, a tad softer, more sidecut, more forward binding positioning than the slalom race skis ( 3V ).

 

It is great for quick short turns, you need to be up to them, they require a sporty skier.

 

post #3 of 16

Agree: Equipe SC.  I tried the older Equipe 10 SC (not streatracer 10).  I would go a little longer than 160 though.  It is really a fun ski.  A great carver, and forgiving yet very quick and precise, does not need speed to come alive, carves a turn as though it reads your mind.

post #4 of 16

 Head Supershape

Stockli Laser SC

Rossignol R11 (can probably pick that up for a song)

post #5 of 16

LOL, Metron M10...

 

sidecut you want

med flex

turned up tail

cheap

a bit wider.. for busting crud. 

post #6 of 16

Fischer RX Fire 8 would do it.  "User friendly" carver, newer version of the RX8.  

 

There's been a lot written about the RX8 here (and elsewhere) so you can disregard the blatant self-interest in this suggestion; I'm selling a 170cm pair in great condition, reasonably priced, here:  http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/78801/fischer-rx-fire-8-170cm  .

 

PS, having demoed the Equipe 10 SC, I think it's fair to say the RX8 is a similar ski to the Equipe 10 / Equipe discussed above.  The Equipe 10 has a super short radius, around 12 m, which maximized fun on the 500-foot speedbump where I tried it out.  RX8 stated radius is 14m but it is not "locked in" to the bouncey shorter turns, it can also cruise longer turns in relaxed mode.  (Long turns at eye watering speeeds, the SuperSports would be preferable.  But you have those!)

 

post #7 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

Agree: Equipe SC.  I tried the older Equipe 10 SC (not streatracer 10).  I would go a little longer than 160 though.  It is really a fun ski.  A great carver, and forgiving yet very quick and precise, does not need speed to come alive, carves a turn as though it reads your mind.


 

I am 5' 11" 176lbs and the 164cm model was just right

post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 

Thank you all for your feedback.  This site is an amazing resource.   I'm looking around my area shops to hopefully locate one of these to buy/demo.   I'm heading up the mountain tomorrow and will demo some of the Salomon Xwing series.  I'm trying a 162 Tornado first, I will let you know how it goes. 

post #9 of 16

TVorhies,

There is a big difference between a Solomon X-wing, and A Solomon Equipe SC.

 

It's like someone told you to buy a Ford GT

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/484580/2006_ford_gt_super_car_part_1/

and you went and tried out a Ford Flex

http://ford.ca/app/fo/en/suvs_crossovers/flex.do

.

It's like someone told you to buy a Chevrolet Corvette, and you went out and test drove a Cavalier.

It's like someone told you to buy a Honda NSX and you got a Honda CRV

 

Remember EQUIPE SC

 

It's not quite as bad as all that.  The Tornado gets good reviews. From what I hear, it's a little more all mountain as opposed to groomer carving.


Edited by Ghost - 2/13/2009 at 12:22 am
post #10 of 16

RX8 I tried had a higher speed limit, was less forgiving, was harder to overpower and was not as quick as the Equipe SC I tried.  Equipe is a scalpel.  RX8 is switch blade.

post #11 of 16

Equipe SC=frenchie ski.  Not available in this country.  Too narrow in any case.  The best option from Salomon would likely be a 1080 in 161 or 171 (will ski very short in 161).

 

I like Phil's suggestion.  There are a myriad of other good picks too.

 

post #12 of 16

Head iSS is very nice at slower speeds but can speed up too. Probably the Magnum too if you don't go too long. Also Rossi Oversize Sl's from a few years ago, can't comment on current crop, also Z's. 

post #13 of 16

If you can't find the Equipes, then I'll 2nd the old Rosi 9S (not 9X) Oversize or VS Oversize.

The older ones are a little more damp than the Solomon, a little less high-strung feeling and still forgiving.  I believe the latest ones are less easy-going and more high-performance (maybe not for slow speeds), I've only hand-flexed the new crop though.

post #14 of 16

FWIW

 

I see the Equipe line is not distributed widely in America.

 

I found on ebay this Equipe 10 SC used , it is from 2006

 

Salomon Equipe 10 SC on ebay

 

However $300 seem high for a used 3 year old pair of skis.

 

I bough mine locally, 2009 new models are now reduced on sale at ~$500 ( 400 EUR in Germany, some 579 CHF here )

 

I've seen them in stock at GBP 390 at http://www.landausports.co.uk/Detail/section/ski%20dept/brand/skis/sib/unisex/id/7169   GBP 450 retail, GBP 390 without the taxes that is equivalent to some $550.

 

I hope you find them locally though.

 

 

 

post #15 of 16

Since you mentioned you want to do bumps, jumps, and ski switch, I am surprised the suggestions are not all twin tips. 

post #16 of 16
Hey T,
I think the new Skis you got will work fine! Your days of picking up the girls on chair 2 are over soon... See you on the hill!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ski Gear Discussion
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Need Slow Speed Carving Skis ??