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This is my first post on this site - so here we go...


About me - 47yrs, 6', 205 lbs, ski in the tahoe area.  From reading the posts here it seems that many( if not all) of you are quite experienced skiers and so a bit more about myself so you could relate better to my comments about the skis and FWIW.   This is my third season of skiing.  First season (2007) I mainly used rentals and bought my 1st pair of boots.  Took a bad fall at squaw (on the bunny slope ;) and hurt my back - out for the season after about 20 days.   Recovered for 2008 and skied about 40 days -  moved on to blues and blacks - took several falls but lasted the whole season. Also upgraded boots to dalbello krypton pro and skis to volkl ac40 sometime towards the end of the season.  Over the course of my short ski life, I have taken several lessons, read ski books and tutorials etc, practiced different stuff - you get the picture... 


I have put in about 25 days this 2009 season and I demoed the following recently:


Demoed the following on mostly groomed hardpack and some bumpy terrain:

1. Atomic crimson ti - 176 cm

Good ski.  Light and easy to turn and from edge to edge, but coming from my ac40s I did not find it as exciting.


2. Volkl Mantra - 177cm

Really liked this ski.  Carved great on blues and felt very secure on steeps.  Just felt a little heavy and sometimes the tails came around a little slow on quick short turns. Did not get a chance to use it on powder though.


3. Volkl AC50 - 177cm

Felt a tad better than the ac40s.  A little quicker edge to edge than the ac40.


4. Dynastar legend 8000 - 178cm.

Seemed to be a solid, good all round ski but I do not remember anything really standing out, although if I recall it did seem on the heavier side and also the fact that I liked the Volkls better.


5. Volkl grizzly - 177cm.

I have tried them on all 3 settings and I usually prefer the middle (dynamic) setting.  I found them light, stable and easier to turn after picking up some speed.  I found them a little hard on moguls but I guess I am still working on my technique there.  I found them excellent on steeps - nice edge control.  Also very stable through crud etc..  Not done any off-piste nor powder as yet. Although the left ski came off going down at a fair clip on a blue-black kind of slope - I had the binding set at din 8 for type 3 so I cranked it up to type 3+ at 9.5 and it has been okay so far.  I did have a tough choice in deciding to buy between the Grizzly and the Mantra, (especially since I already have an ac40) but I went with the former(grizzly) since I thought it better suited my skiing style.  Hopefully my new grizzly will not fail me in the powder though or I might have to trade it in for the Mantras or a real fattie. 


Suggestions, comments and feedback most welcome!


post #2 of 7

Keep the AC40 for non-powder day's, trade the Grizzly's for Gotama's or KiKu's.


IMO you've come a long way in 3 years. My question is, do you really ski at that high of a level to get all the performance out of these skis.


I don't mean that in a snubbish way, but it may sound that way.


Just had an idea, have you thought about going to one of the EPIC events and get some get lessons from some of the best.




Edited by Max Capacity - 2/10/2009 at 01:01 am
post #3 of 7

 Wow, OP, "ExpertWannaBe" -- you have dedication. And certainly a passion for the four edged sports.


My wife and I lived in the Bay Area for 3 years while she completed her residency. I took many trips to Tahoe during that time and even had a buddy cabin for 25 people for a season. I'm 38, 5'11" 192 lbs ... I compete in mountain bike racing, and have rock climbed on 5 continents for over 20 years. I learned to ski (living in texas, travelling to NM or CO) when I was 5. I have never had less than 10 days on the mountain since I was 5 years old, and never more than 35 days when I was un-married and flew to ski several times a year. 


I've skied in Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Idaho, California, New York, and New Hampshire. I ski every single day of every single trip as long as the mountain is open. Only once (in Jan 2004) 12 feet of snow fell in 3 days and every resort was closed digging the lifts out. We built a couple of kickers off the roof of the buddy cabin and snow shoed around. Finally, Alpine Meadows opened up and was pretty protected from the wind -- can I tell you how awesome it was to ski the steep narrows with 12 FEET of fresh PowPow in perfect alpine conditions when all the tourons were sleeping in?


I always demoed gear since about 1992 when my K2 KVCs finally died. I did a lot of Deer Valley skiing back then and the company picked up the tab... and with the valet service at the base of the mountain it was pure luxury. I kept my Salomon SX91 Equipe boots for 20 years, though.


I finally decided this year to re-buy all new gear after a couple of rental disasters (in S. Lake Tahoe no less) (long story short: noob rented me a pair of demo Salomon Screams (good skis) which I de-edged over some unmarked rocks and got robbed by Rainbow because even though I "paid for" and "initialed" the insurance contract the Rainbow owner refused to honor it because they don't actually offer any insurance on demo skis. I had to "buy" ruined boards for 1000 bucks. I'm still dealing with American Express (god bless Amex for taking my side on this) over the charges 6 years later. Hopefully Rainbow will just quietly go out of business when people learn what heart-shaped sphincters they really are.


OK. So on to serious stuff. I live in TX and ski about 20 days a year. I've had my fotos in magazines doing short radius turns on KVCs back in the day. I can ski 100% of any mountain I've ever been on in the USA. 


Why AC50s & Grizzly's?


You made a great choice. AC50s for on-piste work and Grizzly's for PowPow days. Everything in CO and UT is pretty much groomed on the front side and that's where I spend the majority of my time these days. Any race ski would do, but I really don't like the feel of the super wide waists of Pow skis when I'm tracking straight down the hill -- hence out goes the Grizz. I considered the carbon Raceshark, but it's not really a good carving ski: it builds up and releases energy quickly for slalom turns. I don't like snap turns any more. I like a fast carver. I went with a non-swith Tigershark 12. Longish at 185mm, but useful I think in crud and Imperial Bowl (Breck).


Keep the passion. It's great to see that from a late-comer to the sport. I was lucky my non-skiing parents decided to try it with us when we were 5 and have stuck with it for the last 35 years. Even living in Tejas. 

post #4 of 7
Originally Posted by font9a View Post

  AC50s for on-piste work and Grizzly's for PowPow days.


theres hardly any difference between these two skis...4mm in waist width...ac50 is 85 grizz is 89


i would agree with others in this thread that i would keep the grizzly (or your old ac40) for frontside days and get something wide for snow days...your ac 40 and grizzly arent THAT much apart...

post #5 of 7

yeah, might as well get a big ski for Tahoe.  When it snows there, it snows a ton, and usually pretty heavy stuff.  With weeks of nothing but sun, then a big storm, it is the perfect place for a 2-ski quiver.   

post #6 of 7
Originally Posted by dawgcatching View Post

yeah, might as well get a big ski for Tahoe.  When it snows there, it snows a ton, and usually pretty heavy stuff.  With weeks of nothing but sun, then a big storm, it is the perfect place for a 2-ski quiver.   




If you get up to Tahoe when there is new snow or within a few days of it, demo some skis that have waists 105mm and up.  

post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 

Hi - thanks to everyone for your comments and sorry for the late reply!


I think the grizzly are fine for upto about half a foot of powder or so - anything more needs a fatter ski atleast for me.  I demoed the apache coomba (174cm) and it was really nice in a recent sierra powder day.  But as you probably can tell I am a volkl guy and appreciate the gotama recommendation by some of you.  However,I am thinking more about the katana in 183cm as a possible addition to my ski quiver with the grizzly and my older trusted ac40 (which I am keeping more for early and late season when the coverage is low and all those rocks and stubs are exposed). 


I also read someone really praise the kuro in another thread as compared to the gotama but I think that may be too fat...


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