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Need Help with choosing my birthday present! - Volkl AC30 or AC50

post #1 of 14
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I'm buying my birthday present and it's a new pair of skis. About myself; I'm 54, 6'0", 220lb. I'm a very good skier, but nowadays ski only the frontside, no off-piste (ah, but when I was younger...). Anyway, I'm looking for a good ski for frontside groomed, new snow when we get it (last week made tracks in new powder), icy when I have too, crud in the spring. I will have only one pair of skis besides my old volkls and am sold on volkl skis. I've narrowed my choice down to the Unlimited AC30 or the Unlimited AC50. I will buy 177cm, but am undecided between the AC30 (118/76/104) or the AC50 (128/85/112), particularly the narrower or wider waist. Both are models generate a similar radius. Appreciate any help.

post #2 of 14

Welcome to Epic!

 

Where is your home hill? Is it mostly east or west coast skiing?

 

Do you venture off the groomers still? Bumps? How often do you think you'll hit the soft stuff?

 

These may influence your decisions...

post #3 of 14

I skied the 30 and I found it about as unexciting as I generally find Volkls - but maybe that's just me. OTOH, I know several guys around your age that are good skiers and just love both of them, so you're probably on the right track being a Volkl devotee. I'd suggest going wider with the 50 since your older Volkls are probably pretty narrow - and today a 75 to 85 wide midfat will generally do pretty much everything OK. This will reduce the overlap/redundancy between your two sets of skis. You might be able to consider going down a size with the 50, from a surface area perspective. Happy Birthday!

post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 

My home is Alaska ski areas. When we get new snow it is drier than Utah snow, and it can dump like that, but we don't get it as often and in between dumps we have ice (I've never skied real ice in the east thought).  I prefer not to spend time in the bumps. I ski fast, but in control. Help any?

post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 

My home is Alaska ski areas. When we get new snow it is drier than Utah snow, and it can dump like that, but we don't get it as often and in between dumps we have ice (I've never skied real ice in the east thought).  I prefer not to spend time in the bumps. I ski fast, but in control. Help any?

post #6 of 14

I haven't skied either ski, but going off reviews and the manufacturer's specs the AC 30 is a 50 on 50 off piste ski.  The AC50 is an 20 piste/80 Off piste ski.  By your description and the fact you find alot of ice in Alaska, I'd say the AC30 is looking pretty nice.  I have been reading alot on the two skis as I've been looking at them myself for a second ski to take when  I do trips west but will be nice to have here in the east for the odd great conditions.

post #7 of 14

 I'd say AC50. We get our fair share of ice here in Stowe, and the AC50 is very popular. Handles it just fine.

post #8 of 14

Spent 2 days on each (4 total) in a variety of conditions (Ice, Powder, Crud, Groomers, Etc.). Haven't been in the Slush.

It comes down to this.

 

AC50: Capable

AC30: Fun

post #9 of 14

I'd say that the AC30 is a decent ski for ripping on the groomers, the AC50 is a wider ski designed for ripping groomers.  I would not call the 50 a 20 piste/80 off piste ski, it's a wider groomer ski

post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by ALYESKI View Post

 

My home is Alaska ski areas. When we get new snow it is drier than Utah snow....

 

Wow. I want to come ski in your part of Alaska.

post #11 of 14

I recently bought the 09 AC30's and I absolutely love the skis.  I am 5'9", 185 lbs, and got the 170's.  From the very first run I was ripping down the slope's - they are great groomer skis and have solid edge grip.  Last time out night skiing there was quite a bit of icing - the AC30 were stable the entire time, solid grip in the turns with no chatter.  They are also great at blasting through the crude.  While I hear the AC50's are great skis, I think for a solid east coat skier or someone who will stay mostly on the groomers, the AC30's are a great ski.

 

post #12 of 14

I skied a half day on the AC30 and a half day on the AC50 (both in 177) at Snowmass a couple weeks ago.  Mixed conditions of groomed, a bit of scraped hard-pack, an some shallow (6 inch) crud.  I'm 55 yrs old, 6'5", and just under 200lbs. I skied the AC50 first and had a pretty good time.  It was very stable, and really wanted to be skied fast.  A bit more work to turn at low seeds.  When I got the AC30's on my feet, I felt like I was dancing.  Very manueverable at all speeds, no problem with stability at speed, excellent edge hold, and adept and long and short turns.  It was also very good through the chop.

 

I second the opinion that the AC50 is more of a wide carving ski, and that it is not much (if any) better than the AC30 in deeper snow.  It's stiff and you can feel it's width.  I wouldn't want to take it into a mogul field.

 

For me, the AC30 wins hands down for an all mountain ski in the East (or anywhere where it will be used as a 60-40 or more piste ski).  It's a lot more fun than the AC50. 

 

 

post #13 of 14

You might want to add the Tigershark 12ft in a 175 to your list, it fits in right between the AC30 and AC50, and rips on everything we have here in New England.

post #14 of 14

I'm 27, 5'11 150lbs and a very aggressive skier. 

 

I just got the AC50  170cm and love it, pretty much in any condition.  It rips in the groom and is excellent off-piste.   Great in the powder and crud, even decent in the bumps too.

 

I can't speak for the AC30 but it just seems like an unexciting ski to me, I needed something wider since I had plenty of narrower skis.

 

Like others, I would check out the Tigershark 10ft or 12ft.  I really liked the 12ft, but it was designed more for the groom than what I was looking to get.

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