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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

I wanted to ask here about turning.   could you explain the most important things to think about and do when turning.   I went skiing once in 2002 and by the end of the week i felt that I had made some progress.  I was confident on many different slopes.   I recall that I never really mastered or really achieved parrallel turning.  i was not really using the snow plough per se but my skis were tending to close in at the tips  somewhat.


I did do ski school there and am considering having lessons again where I am but have not arranged any yet.


The skis I am using a rather old but in very good condition and have been used 2 times the seller informs me.  the guy who set up the bindings mentioned that he thought they had hardly been used.    they are certainly not modern carving skis.  I do not know the age they are only marginally wider at the front and back.   the skis are Blizzard v36 and the bindings are look.


I realise that i would be much better off with modern skis but that is not possible right now. that being said should i do anything different because they are not modern,  I guess that i am going to have a harder time with them , but am i right in saying that if i progress with them then when i aquire some modern skis , I will be able to used those aswell without too much trouble.


Many thanks


post #2 of 10

The most important thing is tipping both skis to their right edges to turn right and tipping both skis to their left edges to turn left.  Tip more to turn more.


There is a lot more to it, but there you have the starting blocks to build on.


post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 

ok thanks.    should I pay attention to leaning forward to keep weight on front of skis or is that something that you should do at all times.  I was wondering about the up and down movement bending at the knees etc.  when do you do that?

post #4 of 10

Take a lesson even if its a group lesson for half a day. The instructor will give you some really good tips for just yourself and then concentrate on those the rest of the time. Othwer than that....just ski. The more ya ski...the better you'll get. It dont happen overnite.

post #5 of 10

Take lessons.  More than one.


Rent modern skis.  Old fashioned skis are more difficult to learn on, plus most instructors these days don't know how to ski the old fashioned skis.  I'd rather have a student on modern skis that had been used 1000 times than on old skis that had been used twice.  You'll want modern skis that reach up to about your chin.  Old fashioned near-straight skis make good tomato stakes, or if you have enough can be used to make a colorful chair.  (If the Blizzard V36 is a somewhat recent design, then OK if the size and type of ski is suitable for a beginner.)


Rent decent boots.  Boots are more important than skis.  If you decide to continue skiing, buy just-right boots from a real ski shop, not a big-box store, and get them custom fitted to your feet.  Rent skis or buy used modern skis of a type that are suitable for your size and ability level.

post #6 of 10

Stage 5

This will be your leap of faith from competent snowplough skier, skiing in your pizza, triangle or slice of cake, style to parallel skier.
You may wish to try this on a shorter, shallow slope to start with.
From one side of the slope stand across the slope with your skis shoulder width apart. Now move your uphill ski forward so that it is slightly in front of downhill ski. Get in to your slouch and then, when you are ready, move your ski’s down the slope until they start sliding. When you get to the other side of the slope stop. Repeat this in the opposite direct. You are now traversing or parallel skiing across the slope.
Instead of stopping now try turning, so using the above process parallel across the slope and then using your method to turn from stage 3 and using the flex and extend from stage 4 create your turn.
Once you are comfortable just bounce on your feet slightly as you go across so whilst going across the slope your weight is evenly distributed across the whole of your foot not just towards the front. This should make you feel more comfortable.
When you are facing the opposite direction you may find that your uphill ski may stick and not come back in to parallel. To correct this either stand up slightly and slide the ski in, keeping it slightly in front of your downhill ski or lift the uphill ski and put it in to place. Always keep the uphill ski in front of the downhill ski going across the slope to ensure an easy turn.
You have now completed your first step to parallel skiing.
·        Stand across the slope
·        Put the uphill ski in front of the downhill ski slightly
·        Slouch
·        Drop your skis down the slope until they start to slide
·        When ready to do your turn use stage 3 and 4 to turn
·        After your turn ensure that your uphill ski comes in parallel with your downhill ski
·        To slide the uphill ski in just stand up slightly
·        To step the ski in just lift it in place
·        Ensure that the uphill ski always remains in front of the downhill ski
Stage 6
Here we will look at the parallel turn.
Now you are able to ski parallel across the slope and have established your centre of balance across the whole of your foot.
Instead of the snowplough turn I will now explain how to parallel turn.
Method 1
For this turn you need to imagine that something is annoying the middle of the arch of your foot, you will then press down through your arch of your foot squashing the irritation and at the same time still squash the tomato with your chin and push your knee to the tip of the ski, flexing back down, but keeping pressure on the turning ski. Again the more pressure you put on the turning ski t he greater the turn.
·        Instead of toes we are using the arch of our foot
·        Imagine there is an annoyance under your arch
·        Push the arch of your foot down to get rid of the annoyance
·        Keep the squashed tomato technique
·        Keep pushing the knee forward
·        Ensure that you keep your weight on the turning ski
As before ski across the slope in parallel, going in to the stand or extended position, keeping your chins in contact with the front of your boots, when you are facing down the hill turn using the above technique flexing back down on the skis.
Method 2
Face your skis directly down the hill, you may wish to start of in snowplough. Now using the turning technique in stage 3 really pressure the turning ski, turn the none turning ski in the direction you are going, round keeping your weight on the turning ski until you stop. Look at your skis they should be in parallel.
Repeat this a couple of times, once you are happy then instead of coming to a stop, just as your skis are slowing go in to the extended position keeping your chins touching the front of your boots and allow the skis to build speed and take you down the slope, and then create your next turn.
Once you have achieved this and are comfortable you are now parallel skiing congratulations.

(Removed excess lines. T-Square)

Edited by T-Square - 2/14/2009 at 10:55 pm
post #7 of 10

First, Marc66, Welcome to EpicSki! I hope you'll stick around and keep us posted on your progress in the world's greatest sport!


Second...you must answer one important question. All else will follow from your answer:


Why do you turn?



What is your intent, your purpose, when making turns? Don't think about it too much. Just write down the main thing you believe you're trying to accomplish by "turning."


Looking forward to your reply....


Best regards,


post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 

hi,   well,  I think that I need to turn to control my speed , also i dont think it is really possible on most slopes to take a straight line down as you will be flying off of the piste at some point,  the ski slopes i have seen are not straight like a drag race. 

post #9 of 10

Hi marc. 

If you're on straight skis, yes, you're going to have to do things a little different from people on shape skis.  Early on, though, the differences will be minor.  There are 2 primary ways to turn when skiing.  You can simply tip your skis on edge, as Ghost suggested, and let the skis turn for you via their sidecut (called carving),,, or you can generate a rotary force and turn the skis yourself (called steering).   Because carving on the old straight skis you have produces very large and fast turns, and offers limited control of turn shape, you're going to need to use steering as your primary turning mechanism.  Quality steering requires developing a foundation of balance and edging skills.  But these are the same skills all skiers should start out learning, regardless of the type of skis they're on. 


Here's an article that will give you an introduction to steering and turn shape. 




That won't be enough to get you completely where you need to be, but it will give you an idea of where that destination is.  As others here have said, a lesson with a good coach will help you along.  Also explore my website for other articles that can help you get a handle on the technicals of the sport, and another means of learning the foundation skills.  



post #10 of 10

Another trick for straight skis if you are not skiing fast with large turns is to bend them first, before putting them on edge.  On soft snow with soft skis they are already bent from your weight on the snow.  On hard snow or ice you can bend them by pressuring the tips with a very pronounced forward weight shift.  Don't worry about the details of the weight shift; it can get quite unnecessarily complicated.  Just try to get the tps bent into a curve before you start using the edges of your now curved skis to shape your turn. Care needs to be taken manage the rest of the ski as the turn develops.  This moves takes a little bit more skill than skiing on modern shaped skis.  I highly recommend you get some modern shapely skis.

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