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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

I wear a size 10 US shoe and here are my measurements:

R Foot = 26.3 CM
L Foot = 26.4 CM

If I look at the MONDO charts I should be buying a 28.0 MONDO boot, because I wear a 10 US. However if I look at my actual foot length then it should be smaller. Since my feet are 26.4cm and 26.3cm, I should technically be wearing a 26.5 MONDO, which for some reason seems way too small.


I'm 5'6, 150lbs and I just picked up skiing again after taking a break from age 14-22. I now ski 10 days a year. I skiied mostly blues when I was out in vail three weeks ago, and plan to test the blacks during the spring. As a result, I prefer comfort so I can ski all day.


The only expert boot fitter in my area recommended the Nordica Ignition with an 80-90 flex because of my height, weight, and skill level. However they do not have the Ignition in stock (which should confirm they have no reason to push it on me), and only have a Nordica Speedmachine 10 in a 27 and 27.5 since it's nearing the end of the season here in Wisconsin. Would it be beneficial to go try the Speedmachine for size, or do Nordica models fit differently?


My last question is in regards to custom footbeds. My question is, is the surefoot significantly better than the masterfit instaprint? Two things worthy of consideration are: 1. that my feet usually feel pretty good in rental boots and are only slightly flat. 2. The masterfit is only $100 and there are certified bootfitters here in Wisconsin. However, if I wanted the surefoot, I would have to get it out West for $200+ and I would not be able to break it in with my new boots before I head out to Vail in the spring.  If I got the masterfit, it would probably be used 2 or 3 times before I head out there.


Thank You So Much For Your Help!!!

post #2 of 10

Avoid Amshit, err Amfit, product (Surefoot footbeds).  They are often milled poorly (inaccurate posting angles), have too much midfoot support/volume, and don't fit well in many boots.


Why not start with something reasonably priced at $35-50 (generic Superfeet trim-to-fit, or equivalent Sidas product) and see how you feel? 


It sounds like you should be in a 26 mondo shell, but to answer that question you need to be shell fitted properly.  Read the sticky in this forum.  You should buy the boot last/brand that fits your foot best, which usually means trying a couple different boots on.



post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 

I appreciate your input about Surefoot. I'm not really interested in a cheap generic, microwavable, or cut-to-fit footbed. I've had crappy orthotics and nice orthotics in my running shoes and I am very familiar with the difference. My question was more in regards to the Masterfit Instaprint.


What is your experience and knowledge of the quality of the product?

post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 

Just got back from the local ski shop in Madison, Wisconsin. I was fitted for a 26.5 in the Nordica Speedmachine 10, which is a 100-110 flex.


However, since I'm a low-intermediate and only 5'6 150lbs, he told me I should consider finding another Nordica with a flex somewhere in the 80's or 90's. That takes us back to the Ignition. He said it's only 1mm wider and should fit the same, but more importantly is this Shock Absorber.


While the flex seems to be right for my height weight and experience, this boot is advertised as a "park-and-pipe boot". Would the shock absorber have any benefit for a downhill and  inexperienced skiier like myself? Better yet, would having the shock absorber be to my detriment in any way?


If not, I will be ordering a pair of Ignition's in 26.5 and taking them in to the bootfitter to ensure they fit properly before I use them.

post #5 of 10

Agree with Jdistefa! I wouldn't spend the money for the Amfit.


The Instapost product is good and is one of the thinner materials used in footbed construction which is a good thing when used in a properly sized boot.  Now, the key is the person forming and posting and finishing the product!  This is where there can be dramatically different results based on the skill and knowledge of the person making your footbeds. 


As for you query regarding the shock absorbing feature of the Nordica boot and it's Park n Pipe rating,  I wouldn't worry too much about this as the primary difference is the bootboard is rubber instead of a firmer foam or plastic.  This just aids in shock absorption on hard jump landings and possibly a cumulative benefit of less pounding on your body at the end of a skiing day on hard snow or ice.  The only possible negative would be a slight loss in ski/snow feel from softer vs. stiffer boot boards, which would probably be inperceptable to you?

post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 

So my last question would be this: should I have them done here in Madison Wisconsin where the local ski shop (Chalet) has 3 masterfit certified bootfitters and just ask for the most experienced of the 3 or should I wait until I go back out to Vail in a month?


If I had them done here in Madison, I would get to break the footbeds in with my new boots starting this weekend. If I wait and have the footbeds done in Vail, shouldn't I wait to break in my boots until I have the footbed in there also? Would the liner mold differently with the custom footbed vs. the stock footbed? If so, then it's a question of whether or not it's worth it to have my boots already broken in when I head out to Vail for a short 3 day weekend, or to have a more experienced bootfitter do my footbeds.


Enlighten me!

post #7 of 10

I don't know your boot fitter options in Madison, you may have some excellent guys? While the Masterfit group does an excellent job training and educating bootfitters from around the country, simply attending a two day course and receiving the moniker "America's best bootfitters" does not guarantee any particular level of skill.  I do know if you are going to Vail, you will get one of the absolute best fitters in a guy named Greg Hoffman!  Greg is one of the genuine master fitters who conducts the clinics for Masterfit seminars.   He works at the resort and has a boot fitting shop up on the slopes.  Highly reccomend him!


As for breaking in your boots with or without footbeds, I wouldn't worry too much about skiing three days in them before you put a custom footbed in.  It will not make any discernable difference.


good luck and have fun in Vail! and tell Greg that Bud said hey!

post #8 of 10

+1 re. having Greg do your footbeds.

post #9 of 10

I agree with what Bud and Matt have said but would remind you that your warranty and followup work will be at home and not in Vail.  Greg is great, but if your local guys are good I'd use them.



post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 

Last question, I promise. How do I find out if the guys out here are good? Ask them how many custom footbeds they've done or how many years they've been doing instaprint? What's the threshold for "being good", ten years? Couple hundred fittings?

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