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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

McAffee discovered a whole lot of issues on my computer.   They seam to be ad-related cookies.  I cannot compromise my security.  So I installed adblocker to my firefox, I had not bothered to install it on the computer I took with me to my new address, but I did this morning (it is currently turned off, and I'm sure I am getting pasted with cookies).  The adblocker (edit: it seemed) prevents me from responding to posts.  Clever!  

 

The site is also incredibly slow, and sometimes takes too long to respond and I get a web error message.

 

Send me an e-mail when this security issue is resolved.

 

Until then I will be cruising other forums.

EDIT!  It works now

post #2 of 20
Thread Starter 

I have the ad blocker turned on and now I can reply

 

I guess it was just frozen for some strange reason.

 

Phew!

 

I really missed you guys!

 

post #3 of 20

Cool ,I was thinking man I can even run  when I am connected to my VPN and it even hates my banking sites. Glad you are back we missed you also. We missed you so much we considered a drive back up home to Ont .LOL

post #4 of 20

Worst thread ever. That's not funny, Ghost! 

 

Edit; Although I didn't notice you were missing...

post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 

I didn't think it was funny either.  I was very sad.  I spend a lot of time on this forum, and thought it had all come to a sorry end in the name of progress.

post #6 of 20

It wouldn't be the same without you. 

post #7 of 20

I can't post from my computer at work??

 

Is the ad-blocker causing my problem??

 

If not then what is my problem......all of a sudden work isn't as much fun!!

 

Help!!

post #8 of 20
Thread Starter 

What happened to me was that the reply box came up and then got stuck before all the icons for the tools at the top would show up.  However it is working fine now.  Maybe it is an intermittent glitch related to speed of the site and what your browser expects.

 

Try it a few more times before giving up on it.  I hope your work doesn't mind you using their computer when your off the clock.

post #9 of 20

Oh man I hope work dosn't monitor what I am doing on their time or I am soooo fired!!!Guess I better wax my skiis just in case!!

post #10 of 20

I am moving this to the forum report area where we can investigate the possibility there is a bug related to adware or ad blocking. Not quite sure what was going on, but anyone having problems, please include the browser and version, and description of the problme and the development team will investigate.

post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

McAffee discovered a whole lot of issues on my computer.   They seam to be ad-related cookies.  I cannot compromise my security.  So I installed adblocker to my firefox, I had not bothered to install it on the computer I took with me to my new address, but I did this morning (it is currently turned off, and I'm sure I am getting pasted with cookies).  The adblocker (edit: it seemed) prevents me from responding to posts.  Clever!  

 

The site is also incredibly slow, and sometimes takes too long to respond and I get a web error message.

 

Send me an e-mail when this security issue is resolved.

 

Until then I will be cruising other forums.

EDIT!  It works now

 

This is likely related to the JavaScript on the site. The editors are all JavaScript.

post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

McAffee discovered a whole lot of issues on my computer.   They seam to be ad-related cookies.  I cannot compromise my security.  So I installed adblocker to my firefox, I had not bothered to install it on the computer I took with me to my new address, but I did this morning (it is currently turned off, and I'm sure I am getting pasted with cookies).

McAffee and other "internet security" programs with anti-spyware/privacy scanning get their panties in a twist, or more accurately attempt to get their users' panties in a twist, about perfectly harmless (from a security perspective) cookies. How else do they sell their $59 annual renewals along with a hard-sell upsell to the $109/year "full Internet Security" package.

 

Cookies are a good thing at the core. Without geeking out too much, here's why. Think about when you log in to a site. Then you click to another page on the site. How does the site still "know" that you're logged in? How does a site "know" that you put something in your shopping cart? The web is what we programmer geeks call "stateless". You don't actually have an ongoing session with the website computer you're communicating with. Every single time you request a page and it sends it back, really it's a "Start, send, receive, Stop, forget I was ever talking to you." (yeah I'm vastly oversimplifying it.) Unlike older pre-web (and still prevalent) mainframe and other large systems where once you're logged on, you're on. I could get into CICS COMMAREA, TSQs, TDQs, 3270 terminal IDs, and other stuff that I haven't quite gotten out of my head even though it dates back to the age of beartrap bindings, but I won't. You're welcome. One of the biggest problems I found back in the 90's when my then-team started working with web developers where we on the mainframe were being a ginormous server for them, was that many of the old mainframe guys couldn't get their heads around how the browser didn't "maintain state" the way that the trusty old 3270 TERMID did. Had lots of fun designing a web-targeted search of mainframe data and explaining to the gang why we and the web developers needed to agree on how we were going to pass and persist state. If the mainframe at the time knew about cookies, we could have used that, but that was before OS390/zOS had a built in web services capability.

 

The primary way that a site "knows" where you were, that you're logged in, that you've read messages up through this one, that you have 3 things in your shopping cart, is because cookies are used to "maintain state". There are other ways, but cookies are NOT inherently evil.

 

Now advertising cookies might be a bit "evil". But I'd rather see ads for ski gear, independent travel, airline miles earning opportunities, and science-fiction stuff when I'm on Yahoo or any site serving up google-ads, instead of womens' shoes, baby bottles, golf equipment, crochet needles, and badminton racquets. So if some ad tracking cookies know that I hang out at epicski.com, flyertalk, slashdot, trekmovie, travel-specific sites for southeast Asia and South America, and share that across sites, that's not so bad IMHO. As I've noted elsewhere in the tech suggestions forum, I'm using adblock but not blocking everything from epic. I also don't block everything from other sites if I find their ads semi-relevant and non-annoying.

 

So I don't think you should be really worried about privacy/security concerns from the cookies you're seeing, even from some ad cookies. If the ad cookies bother you, there are official opt-out sites (too lazy to look) that store a dummy cookie from each ad syndicator so that they don't save tracking data on you.

 

Now if we just could get rid of the darn Golfinator - that seems to be the only banner ad other than google text ads that are getting served here, and it's coming from a couple of different ad syndicators!

 

edit: PS McAffee blows chunks and slows every machine I've ever tried it on to a crawl. If you must payfor something, at long last Symantec no longer is a pig. Symantec Norton360 is a well-regarded, light-impact full "Internet Security Suite" without a lot of technobabble. If you want the technobabble and manual control, Symantec Internet Security is also now lightweight but flexible.

 

Me, I've switched almost entirely to COMODO Internet Security, which now combines their well-regarded (but high in technobabble) firewall with their Anti-Virus and HIPS (Host Intrusion Protection System). It is totally free including for commercial /business use (which is NOT the case with AVG, Avast, other "free" antivirus). I add to it their separate products, also free, COMODO Memory Firewall (protects against buffer overflow exploits) and COMODO BOClean (anti-malware monitor that is behavior-based). Total cost: $0.

 

I have to use Symantec Corporate Antivirus as provided by BigFinancialCo on the machines I have configured to VPN into work, because they check for versions of that, but they provide it to employees for free. 

 

Only thing I need now is a current AV product that will run on Win98SE running in a Virtual PC VM on a 2nd-gen CRT iMac "upgraded" to OS9 from its original OS8, that will actually work in a 64M VM. Avast is crapping all over the floor so I'm about to try AVG. But I digress. If anybody wants some antique system tests of the site with Mac IE5, iCab for OS9, Opera 6 for OS9, or the final versions of Mozilla/WaCom for OS9, give me a yell. I still have systems with OS9 NS4 and Windows NS4 but I'm just terrified of what this would look like with them. Sorry, no IE4 or NS3 left anywhere.

 

Anything is better than McAfee IMHO, Ghost. Get yourself some better freeware AV/Firewall and anti-spyware. You'll think you just bought a faster computer!


Edited by MarkXS - 2/9/2009 at 04:28 am
post #13 of 20

MarkXS, thank you for the great tutorial on these things... this will be very helpful. In fact, what about making a wiki out of it for reference here?

post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by MarkXS View Post

Now if we just could get rid of the darn Golfinator - that seems to be the only banner ad other than google text ads that are getting served here, and it's coming from a couple of different ad syndicators!

 

We will over time... hopefully soon.

post #15 of 20

Wow Mark!  too much coffee?

post #16 of 20

Not enough coffee! Sleep patterns are nuts lately. I guess I'm in my "geek head" - but really should be designing some new Oracle functions for my "real job" instead of this.

post #17 of 20

I did appreciate the explanation.  Learned something or two.  Just don't tell me there will be a quiz.

post #18 of 20
Thread Starter 

I had Norton.  It automatically self-updated into a non-operable state.  I spent hours and hours trying to fix thing.  Their internet help was not helpful.  I finally said to hell with it.  They would not help me get it OFF my system at that point either.  I will not use NORTON. 

 

I'm not even going to mention their complicity with allowing sony to put a virus on peeps computers to make sure they didn't violate copywrite(not a problem for me as I don't do shareware music).

post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by MarkXS View Post

Now if we just could get rid of the darn Golfinator - that seems to be the only banner ad other than google text ads that are getting served here, and it's coming from a couple of different ad syndicators!

 

We will over time... hopefully soon.

Hey, I've got cute colorful t-shirts instead of the Golfinator. Much less scary and not being blocked by my filter setup. The perfect gift for the attractive ladies in the family. :) Another quick-fix done, tnx.

 

Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

I had Norton.  It automatically self-updated into a non-operable state.  I spent hours and hours trying to fix thing.  Their internet help was not helpful.  I finally said to hell with it.  They would not help me get it OFF my system at that point either.  I will not use NORTON. 

 

I'm not even going to mention their complicity with allowing sony to put a virus on peeps computers to make sure they didn't violate copywrite(not a problem for me as I don't do shareware music).

 

 

I hear you about Norton, and mostly agree with you about their pre-2008 products. But Norton 360 and Norton Internet Security 2009 are drastically different. Appear to be a total rewrite with much more efficient code, faster execution, way less hit on system performance. Lisamarie's newish laptop came with Vista and Norton 360 from Gateway. I was impressed by how well Norton worked on that compared to all the older versions I tried. Granted, I removed it and replaced it with Comodo free stuff after the 60-day free trial rather than paying the $70 or whatever, but in terms of satisfaction with it while it was on there, I was happy about it, and LM was not complaining about it slowing down or bothering her with messages. It "just worked".  And it uninstalled completely and easily, with nothing left to interfere with my installing a competing package.

 

As to Sony - I don't know if you should blame Symantec. You definitely should blame Sony. I haven't bought a Sony product of any sort since that debacle (which fortunately I avoided). No blank DVD/CD media, no Sony prerecorded CDs or DVDs, no Sony hardware of any type, and I don't intend to change. The one exception is I'll go to the occasional movie that happens to be Columbia Pictures/TriStar/Sony Studios if I want to see the film. But I'm done with them as a company even though I'm sitting here in front of my still-sharp Trinitron computer monitor and have one of their great old portable shortwave radios, both about 14 years old at this point.

 

But to stop hijacking this thread, back on point to pop-ups/editor boxes/buttons not working: ssh has also confirmed that it seems to be slow-loading JavaScript. I've seen the same thing on a variety of PC/OS/Browser combos somewhat randomly and infrequently. The crew seems to be working on it and I haven't seen in myself in the past day. So it very likely wasn't Adblock or McAfee at all.

Edited by MarkXS - 2/9/2009 at 08:49 pm


Edited by MarkXS - 2/9/2009 at 08:53 pm
post #20 of 20

On a related note, I like Firefox because it has Ad Blocker Plus.  BUT, Firefox takes forever to load for some reason and Epic and Facebook are LOADS faster on Internet Explorer.  So, based on performance, I'd like to use IE.  But based on all these ads, I'd like to use Firefox to block them.  Is there an add-on for IE that does the same thing?  Or, is Firefox pokey BECAUSE I use AdBlocker Plus?

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