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Any tuning suggestions for Watea 84s?

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Any tuning suggestions for Watea 84s? Bevels, etc.

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Maybe this Wiki on Edge Bevel Angles will answer your questions?

 

 

Best regards,

Terry (aka Alpinord)

 

 

 


Edited by Alpinord - Fri, 06 Feb 09 02:00:40 GMT
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I tuned my Watea 94's to 1 base/3 side for my trip to Utah last week.  This made them grip on scratched off hard stuff and didn't really affect their soft snow performance.

 

I generally tune all of my skis 1/3 since I see hard snow/ice pretty much everywhere I ski.

 

Mike

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Maybe this Wiki on Edge Bevel Angles will answer your questions?

 

 


 

 


Thank you! That is an excellent article on the concepts of tuning; good info.

I am also hoping to get information more specific to the Watea 84.

 

Mike C

Thank you, as well! I have found that I only go to 3 degrees on my race skiis.

I'm lucky and don't have to ski that much ice here in the West.

Any idea what Fischer recommends?

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FWIW, on my Legends I have .5:3 on one pair of edges & 1:2 bevel angles on the other to help answer this common question (Check out the Factory Edge Bevel Wiki and add Fischer when you find out) for myself and others. I find that I like the 1:2 combo best for almost everything a little better, but hard pack here in Colorado, though the .5:3 is fine as well and easy to adjust too. The softer the snow the less it matters, IMO. Same for softer bumps, though I 'think' 1:2 is better. Since it so easy to change side edge geometry, a little experimenting is highly recommended. With the base, start low and move up if you want to experiment.

 

HTH

 

Terry


Edited by Alpinord - Fri, 06 Feb 09 15:35:37 GMT
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FWIW, on my Legends I have .5:3 on one pair of edges & 1:2 bevel angles on the other to help answer this common question .

 


As one who has tuned skis for many years(professionally, and personally, for many years since), I am now a relative newcomer to beveling(it was mostly flat and 90.)

Since the DIN boot/binding interface came into play, I have rarely defined/skied a ski as left or right, but I think your idea of tuning your edges to two different sets of conditions is an excellent idea. Particularly for skis that may be used for multiple conditions.

Thank you again!

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FWIW, on my Legends I have .5:3 on one pair of edges & 1:2 bevel angles on the other to help answer this common question (Check out the Factory Edge Bevel Wiki and add Fischer when you find out) for myself and others. I find that I like the 1:2 combo best for almost everything a little better, but hard pack here in Colorado, though the .5:3 is fine as well and easy to adjust too. The softer the snow the less it matters, IMO. Same for softer bumps, though I 'think' 1:2 is better. Since it so easy to change side edge geometry, a little experimenting is highly recommended. With the base, start low and move up if you want to experiment.

 

HTH

 

Terry


Edited by Alpinord - Fri, 06 Feb 09 15:35:37 GMT

 

I ran the same test myself a few years ago with a number of different skis.  I came to the same conclusion - I prefer 1 degree base to .5 degree.  What surprised me was how obvious that .5 degree difference was.  I figured I'd barely be able to notice, but the .5 degree bevel definitely forces you to "keep on your toes".  In the old days (way old - back to the pencil straight skis we were on) I always filed my bases flat and my side edges - no bevel whatsoever (this was in the 80's mostly).  I guess the additional width and sidecut of today's skis makes the base bevel all that more important.

 

I've also made the mistake of over-beveling a set of skis through my own poor skills when I first started doing my own base bevels.  Those skis were like using butter knives instead of steak knives, but they did the old swivel technique through the moguls really well.

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(Check out the Factory Edge Bevel Wiki and add Fischer when you find out)

 

Fischers come from the factory with 1 deg base and 3 deg side angles.

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So....are ya gonna hang out on a limb and add it to the Wiki?

 

Thanks,

Terry

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