Female skiers: women, ladies, girls, chicks - Page 3

I really don't like it when I hear men refer to their wives as "The Wife".  Does she have a name?  It just seems disrespectful.  

I think many people are a wee bit sensitive about some of the other names.

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Originally Posted by skier31 

I really don't like it when I hear men refer to their wives as "The Wife".  Does she have a name?  It just seems disrespectful.  

 

I think many people are a wee bit sensitive about some of the other names.

My friend refers to his SO as "my future ex-girlfriend".

It would be most appropriate for the Hollywood sect to refer to their spouses as "my future ex."

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Originally Posted by Racer256 

Nobody mentioned: "Toots, Honey, Baby, Sweetie, Sister, Sweet Cheeks, Missy, Lambchop, Peach, Cutie, Angel, Blondie, Red, Honey-buns, Pumpkin, Mon Petit Chou, Silly Goose, Stretch (tall female homo-sapien), or Thickness."

 

Lighten up, Francines.

 

What is with this Orwellian new-speak crapola?  When did "Young Lady" become derogatory?

 

Feel free to call me anything you like.  I am secure enough in my pleasant phallocentric, misogynistic, capitalistic, imperialist world to handle any insult implied, real, or imagined.

 

For example. the following work equally well for adressing me:  "Dreamboat, Old Timer (I am am 39), Boy, Dude, F-nut, Bindlestiff, Nimwit, Tuff Guy, Sir, Mister, Dawg, Homie, Home Slice, Guy, Homo, Duche, Retard, Jack @$$, Numb-nuts, Doofus, Dumb @$$, Sh_ _ for brains, Lamo, Speedy, Stud Muffin, Paddy, Mick, Hunky McHunky, and Dad.

 

I am sure there are some I have missed that would not bother me much either.

 

In the future,I am going to go with "Female Homosapien Carbon Unit who is my equal in every way"  That should keep the thought police off my back.

 

"Excuse me Comrade female homo-sapien who is my equal in every way, you dropped your ink-pencil."

* pat pat *

Oh honey, relax.  Nobody's attacking you personally.  Don't get your panties in a twist.  Just calm your little self down and try not to let your emotions run away with you.  Is it that time of the month?  Just take some deep breaths and try to calm down.  Have a tissue.

With respect to the term "young lady" and elderly populations - that's a clinical issue.  Patronizing, infantilizing speech impairs health-related quality of life in this population by making them feel even more helpless and dependent than they actually are.  This is something that has been studied scientifically.  I work with this population, which is why I'm aware of this.

With respect to ripper chix on the chairlift...it's highly unlikely that you'll cause any actual offense by calling them "young lady".   But it's also highly unlikely you'll flatter or impress them with that, either.  Just sayin'.

I do not need a tissue.  While my tears can cure cancer, I never cry...Toots.

Your tears can cure cancer? You're not mistaking yourself for that Bob Peters?

This is why guys screw up continually, women don't send clear messages.  Just say what you mean or want.

I’ll ski along here and get us to arc some bigger faster lines.  Get centered on those skies and stay on my 6; we’re going to drop hammer now  

Yes.  I read here a number of boys falling over themselves condescendingly trying to figure how, what, when and where to say…ahhh…something to a woman skier met on a hill.  I also read a bunch of women trying to participate in another version of help me be a better guy take which is yet another deftly subjugating exercise painful to read.    

Check please.  It’s not by how you address rather than what you’re habitually thinking and doing.  Specific to skiing I’ll site an example.  A couple of years ago there was an Epic gathering where the higher end skier group broke away and collected atop a challenging run reading to launch.  My wife happened to be the only female in the group.  She [and everybody] overheard a bear poignantly asking another “they let a girl ski in this group?!”  Honestly, he said perhaps what 95 percent of the guys were thinking.  Nevertheless, all facial expressions changed abruptly turning slowly to my wife then quickly back to me.  

Of course my first reaction was to kick his little butt…but then my wife would have kicked mine for thinking I should fight her battles.  Rather she simply handled that awful insult by not only skiing down faster and with more skill and grace while beating out every male in the group but did so without taking the two stops this fellow did just to regroup in the mank on the steep.  She played that well.  That was an awesome beat down.  That was a woman skier Lindsey Vonn or Ingrid Backstrom would have been proud of. 

Do you think she really first cares about what she is called or how she is addressed on the hill?  As she and other women who I regularly ski with have said; what they are called pales in comparison to how they are first viewed on the slope and how they must spend extra energy to convince otherwise.  I’ve watched these same women physically cringe when they see a woman giggle or clown to lessen the competitive pressure when amongst a group of men who are all out to establish alpha skier.  Yes, it must be a constant challenge working to place a positive first impression on “ski like a girl”.    

Moral; how women are first addressed on a hilltop is not the issue men.  Stop the surface discussion and work the deeper issues.  Further, stop the giggles women, don’t waste time playing with knuckle draggers and get busy skiing   

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Originally Posted by davluri 

I come out of cycling, where it is common to refer to the women as "girls", as in: let's go girls, double paceline....

 

In the interest of being respectful and friendly, how do women skiers prefer (enjoy) to be addressed (if not by name for whatever reason). as in:check those women, hiking for the cornice. I'd prefer, check those skiers, hiking for the cornice, but referring to whether they are male or female comes up pretty often. women sounds formal and old, ladies sounds antiquated, chicks, well you'd better know them pretty well. I think that in sport, there is a way of addressing athletes that is current and correct. anyone? especially the girls out there?

Agree that the intent is important, but pretty much anything EXCEPT "Ma'am" is okay.  Every time I hear that word I want to throttle the speaker...  And sometimes I do. 

Don't come down to Georgia or you will be arrested for mass murder.

I don't call broads anything, I just hit 'em over the head with a club and drag 'em home. 

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Originally Posted by crystal 

 

 

I had a small accident several years ago (when I was in my early 30's) and I was watching the ski patroller fill out the report form, he wrote 'middle aged woman', I mean, WTF?

 

Not to make anyone feel older than they think or feel, but I believe medically middle age range is 35-64 yrs. old.  WTF was my same reaction to learning that when I was about 30.  Made me think the doc was trying to age me before my time.

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Originally Posted by Racer256 

Nobody mentioned: "Toots, Honey, Baby, Sweetie, Sister, Sweet Cheeks, Missy, Lambchop, Peach, Cutie, Angel, Blondie, Red, Honey-buns, Pumpkin, Mon Petit Chou, Silly Goose, Stretch (tall female homo-sapien), or Thickness."

With the exception of Mon Petit Chou (for me), most of these are likely to get you punched, or at least get you a dirty look.

I don't know of any female skiers who have a problem being guys, gals, girls, divas, chicks, dudes, rippers, ladies, women, or just skiers. And, while some of us may not mind being addressed as "a bitch" or "bitches", depending on intent; bitch or bitches preceded by any possesive is again likely to get you punched.

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Originally Posted by skier31 

I really don't like it when I hear men refer to their wives as "The Wife".  Does she have a name?  It just seems disrespectful.  

 

I think many people are a wee bit sensitive about some of the other names.

What about calling their wives "momma"?

Weird. 

First time I heard it I was with a guy in his late 60's at a truck dealership.  "What do you think?" says the saleman.  "I've got to ask momma" was his reply.

In an interview for NPR, Danica Patrick said when asked that she thought the word 'woman' was "old fashioned".

Of course that was when she was driving race cars instead of just making commercials in the shower.

Well actually the showering thing isn't so bad.....

is she recycling the water?

Oh, forgot to ask about the word "ho"

remember that future model of the Bro?

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Originally Posted by Tog 

Oh, forgot to ask about the word "ho"

 

Funny you should say that.....as I was reading this and laughing, hubby asked the same thing.

Oh, and Bro is OK as far as I'm concerned.

But NOT ho.

I know I seem to post things somtimes just to get people started but....... No word of a lie a guy I use to work with introduced his wife as "the house hag" I never could believe she put up with it.

She was twice his size and he was a scrawny guy I always was waiting for her to drift him but she never did

"Hey Miss New Booty" tends to generate a consistent response.

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Originally Posted by Old Boot 

She was twice his size and he was a scrawny guy

Maybe he had it right. (ducking!)

DonDenver's story is great.  I'm fortunate enough to know a bunch of women who can ski me and dudes much better than me under the table.  Nothing but huge respect for those women.

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Originally Posted by Garrett 

I was raised (in the North) to always refer to people I didn't know as sir or ma'am, and further to always refer to elders with a title and last name even if I knew their first names.

 

I address women younger than me this way when I don't know their name, and it gets me more than a few funny looks from both men and women.  I've eased up on the second part, I'll address my elders by their first names if that is how they introduce themselves.  I'm pretty laid back about it: I don't mind when someone calls me buddy or guy or dude but I just feel more comfortable addressing others as Sir and Ma'am.

 

If I don't know your name, how am I supposed to address you other than ma'am?

 

(as previously posted, if I do know you, I'll probably end up referring to you as dude or guy at some point, regardless of your gender)

Edited by Garrett - Fri, 06 Feb 09 02:38:39 GMT

And there you go using logic again.  You can ma'am me anytime and I would smile.   The "Hey you !" approach some people use doesn't really cut it.  Rarely comes across as cordial. Just demanding or desperate.

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Originally Posted by Old Boot 

I know I seem to post things somtimes just to get people started but....... No word of a lie a guy I use to work with introduced his wife as "the house hag" I never could believe she put up with it.

She was twice his size and he was a scrawny guy I always was waiting for her to drift him but she never did

Interesting.  Since we all tend to create our own worlds, maybe in her world "the house hag" commands more respect than the "kept woman" or the "homemaker". I'd have a bit more fear of the house hag than the other two. 
 

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Originally Posted by COSkiGirl 

  "You're a chick, you can't do that!" would be a major challenge to me.  "Chicks can't ski as well as me." would piss me off.  Same goes for just about any other term.   

What if it was a top male freeskier or racer who said that?

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Originally Posted by davluri 

......Of course my first reaction was to kick his little butt…

I don't see an enlightened conciousness (arc bigger thoughts) in your agressive assertions when you turn around and disrespect a whole set of skiers based on their size. women are often smaller than men. Some skiers, many of the best in the world, are smaller than average height. have a problem respecting them?  as you said: it's the concepts behind the words that define respect between people, and you revealed your small-arc-mindedness as soon as you opened your mouth.

 

Tahoe has many awesome women. don't say ski like a girl around here. I heard a guy say that in Funatel, and I just said: "YOU WISH!"

Huh?  Enlightened consciousness?  Arc bigger thoughts?  

Nice overreaction without cause pal..

Reread the post and think.  The lead in was sarcastic as highlighted…meant primarily to shift track and hopefully begin the slow death of this stupid thread. 

Disrespect for a whole set of skiers base on size?  Now that’s really bizarre.  I said the guy had a little butt...oh...he is shorter in height than my wife.  I'm also sure my wife could have kicked his butt, but she ended up skiing it off him instead  way cool that.  Finally, putting down women on my post?  That’s as far from accurate as you are from correct.

If you still need your question answered that spawned this idiotic thread, please don’t post back and bump this thread; write to Abby.  After that, go ski like a girl 

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Originally Posted by COSkiGirl 

  "You're a chick, you can't do that!" would be a major challenge to me.  "Chicks can't ski as well as me." would piss me off.  Same goes for just about any other term.   

 

What if it was a top male freeskier or racer who said that?

Doesn't matter, still a challenge.  Why would it be different?  When you doubt my ability solely based on my gender I don't care if you started skiing yesterday or you're Bode Miller.  But considering most upper level male skiers have been skiing with ripper chicks for many years most (if not all) are not likely to make assumptions that I can't do something just based on my gender. 

10-4 to that.

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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA 

so I should refer to a 21 year old girl as a women?

 

Hey, back in the 70's in some circles you were required to refer to a 1-day old female as a "baby woman". Including the circles frequented by my then-future ex-wife.

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Originally Posted by Lucky 

This is why guys screw up continually, women don't send clear messages.  Just say what you mean or want.

Dr. Medina (Author- Brain Rules) recalls some research that essentially found the one factor that will determine if a marriage succeeds or fails. (Google Authors Presentation Here: 50 minutes long and HIGHLY recommended.)

No joke. That one factor is if the wife believes she is being understood by her husband... and in-turn, he is responding positively to her requests. However, there's a twist to the research... she has to make herself easily understandable by tweaking her language so it is concise and not camouflaged because she is trying to hide that she is trying to change him. 

Simply put ladies, admit you're trying to change us, make sure we understand that request, and make sure we're willing to do it. Then, your marriage will succeed. 

Sorry, guys. It's the troof. Don't like it? Find a woman who is happy with who you are. (Are you really THAT likable?)