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Just a reminder...lock your skis/board!

post #1 of 48
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I just want to remind people to lock their skis/board whenever you leave them... 

Unfortunately, I payed the price recently.... I usually do lock my skis, but just left them in the racks outside the ski lodge at Edelweiss (a small hill North of Ottawa in Quebec) for about a minute to use the washroom(it's just a minute, they'll be ok, right?)  I get back... I don't see my skis where I left them, but I do see an identical pair..with the same poles a few feet from where I left mine. Not thinking, I grab the set and head home...2 weeks later, when it's time to go skiing again, I realize what has happened - the skis I have are identical Dynastar Contact 9s...except they are 172cm long instead of 158cm as I had purchased... the poles were a bit longer too, though they had been shortened so they were only 5cm longer than my poles... also identical Head aluminum poles.  Someone must have grabbed my skis...and I grabbed theirs.

I am pretty sure it was a simple mix up (how many people have identical skis and poles?), but am still very frustrated by it. I called all of the local ski hills to ask if there had been any reports, and most were very unhelpful - I gather skis get stolen all of the time, so they don't seem to care much when people report them. Edelweiss at least made a report, and I put up a few signs saying "HAVE DYNASTAR CONTACT 9 SKIS?" in big letters around the lodge (with permission), but I am doubting I will ever recover my skis again.

So....I'll be skiing with these 172cm skis for the rest of the season - the extra length doesn't bother me on the groomed runs, but I miss the extra agility in the bumps and trees. I'll likely try to sell them in the offseason, and buy something new that's a tad shorter...wish i could find another set of Contact 9s that were a bit shorter, but they seem to be hard to come by.

Moral for everyone: If you care about your equipment... ALWAYS Lock for skis/board! Even for only a few seconds! 

post #2 of 48

Check out www.geardirect.com. Contact 9 $399.00,  4X4's are $699.00

post #3 of 48

That is just an all around bad situation.  I hope you've had your bindings properly adjusted for your current set of skis.  I've had to deal with the results of situations like this too often.  A lock is a simple and fairly quick solution.

post #4 of 48
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I payed $399+tax (canadian) locally for these skis...so I don't feel like buying new ones yet.  If I get new skis, I'll probably look at the summer sales.  Perhaps I won't be able to get contact 9s, but something similar would do.  I'll worry about that when it comes to that.

 

Who knows...perhaps I'll decide to keep the 172cm...they're very comfortable and the extra stability is nice on the steeps.  I just miss the agility of the shorter skis.

post #5 of 48
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post

That is just an all around bad situation.  I hope you've had your bindings properly adjusted for your current set of skis.  I've had to deal with the results of situations like this too often.  A lock is a simple and fairly quick solution.

That's a good point...the longer skis are set at a DIN of 7...my shorter skis were at a DIN of 6... is that much of a difference?

 

I'm just starting to get over it...I was so mad at myself the past 2 days for leaving them unattended.  I'd say 80% of the skis I see on the racks aren't locked, so I always thought I was being over-cautious locking them...guess not. I was also intending to write my name on the skis....but, never got around to it!  If I'm really lucky, perhaps the other guy will realise what has happened and check with the Edelweiss resort..but I think that's a long shot...especially 2 weeks now since it happened.


Edited by Jay31 - Wed, 04 Feb 09 05:47:57 GMT
post #6 of 48

The setting change isn't necessarily a big deal but I'd have someone qualified check the forward pressure.  If 6 was working for you on the other skis, I'd tend towards setting these that way.

 

The appropriate thing to do is have a shop test the bindings and set them in accordance with the physical test.

post #7 of 48
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Good idea... I think they should be pretty similar to mine though - from the stickers still on the skis, I can tell that these were purchased at the same summer sale(Ottawa's T&L warehouse sale) as I bought mine at...and from the wear, they appear equally old.  The bindings are identical, so there shouldn't be too much of a difference.  I think to be safe though, I will get them checked out though... not taking any more chances with skis.

 

An upside to this, is I get to try out longer skis... at 150lbs, 172cm skis do seem a bit long at slow speeds, but I haven't had any problems - they actually feel better on the groomers and steeps than the 158cm.  I may consider getting slightly longer skis next time.

post #8 of 48

Man I sure hope it was a simple mix up and the other person got your skiis!!!What a wierd situation I would wounder when standing in a lift line from time to time if some individual was looking thinking "I'm sure those are my skies that must be the so and so,but I'm not possitive umm errr"

I thyink I would donate them to the underprivaliged ski kids in my area and claim them stolen and get a "clean " pair from insurance. Either way what happen really sucks,OK you sold me new ski lock before I jhit the hill thursday.

Thanks for the reminder

post #9 of 48

Although a bit ugly, my skis all have my name, in Sharpie, in a prominent place on the the tips so mix ups like this are hopefully avoided.

post #10 of 48
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Yeah, I'm definitely going to be looking at everyone's skis every time I hit the hills... I'm pretty sure someone else took mine, as I remember where I left them, and they weren't there when I came back..but this other pair was very close by - I just thought my memory was playing tricks with me at the time, or they'd been moved for some reason.  The questions are - what did the other guy do with my skis and does he want his back?  If he doesn't ski regularly...or he's a crappy skier, he may not have even noticed yet.  Even if he doesn't have my skis, he has no proof that the ones I took were his, so I won't be giving them back to anyone unless it's in exchange for my skis...or some money.

 

I thought about going the insurance route too..but my deductible is more than the original price of the skis.

 

Writing your name on your skis is a good idea to avoid mix-ups... I was meaning to do that, but never got around to it (kicks self again).. but ski thefts are still very common, and I don't think a thief would care about that if they liked your skis - Sharpie can be removed or painted over.  I would still lock 'em if you care about them.

post #11 of 48

"The questions are - what did the other guy do with my skis and does he want his back?  If he doesn't ski regularly...or he's a crappy skier, he may not have even noticed yet."

 

Unless his boots are the exact same size, he probably would have noticed if he has used them since.  Also, if, by chance, his boots did fit your binding settings, he likely would have noticed the difference in length right away.  

 

I had this happen to a friend on a trip, except the skis were the same length, too, just a different binding setting.  We notified the resort staff and gave them a cell phone number to call.  Then off to see a ski tech... 

post #12 of 48

 I've been screamed and yelled at and threatened with a call to the police for telling a customer that I wouldn't accept a return of a different brand of skis with a different shop's name on them in lieu of our skis or cash.  I think I ended up taking the skis and the cash and bringing the skis back to the other shop myself.

post #13 of 48

I also write my name and phone #'s (cell and home) on every single one of my skis.  First to prevent accidental swapping, intentional pilfering, and finally in case one gets away in deeper snow and can not be immediately found.after a yard sale.  A little acetone will remove the ink should I decide to sell them.  I also use a cable lock at the base lodge.


Edited by crgildart - Wed, 04 Feb 09 16:54:45 GMT
post #14 of 48

Luckily ski thefts are very uncommon around here, though one of the other dads on our team did lose a pair of race stock Racetiger SLs last year while he was helping his son with a broken leg!

 

But on the mix up front I had a funny and fairly harmless one last week. My son has some Scott poles, originally 100cm, but cut down to the rather odd length of 93cm. One of these disappeared after training. They'd been doing drills with one and no poles, and its not so unlikely someone grabbed the wrong pole. Stopped by next day, and sure enough, the lifties had picked up a similar looking pole. Different grip and 75cm long. Next training I kept an eye out for someone with odd poles, and sure enough one of the youngest boys turned up all lopsided - oblivious to the fact that there was an 18cm difference between his poles. When I stopped him and made him swap he just looked all mystified at me. You'd think his parents might have noticed even if he didn't.

post #15 of 48
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Originally Posted by NYCHawkeye74 View Post

"The questions are - what did the other guy do with my skis and does he want his back?  If he doesn't ski regularly...or he's a crappy skier, he may not have even noticed yet."

 

Unless his boots are the exact same size, he probably would have noticed if he has used them since.  Also, if, by chance, his boots did fit your binding settings, he likely would have noticed the difference in length right away.  

 

I had this happen to a friend on a trip, except the skis were the same length, too, just a different binding setting.  We notified the resort staff and gave them a cell phone number to call.  Then off to see a ski tech... 

Unfortunately, I think our boot settings must be the same length - as my boots fit right into his bindings (so I assume his boots would fit right into mine).  I didn't actually notice until I started my first run of the day and they felt a bit different - kind of like going from a sporty compact car(the shorter skis) to luxury sedan(longer ones). 

 

At least the signs I put around the Edelweiss lodge are being noticed - I already received a call from someone who had the same thing happen to them - unfortunately, it wasn't a match, and the women didn't know anything about skis.  I guess this happens pretty frequently...

 

One funny thing about this experience - I found out my old poles were too short... this guy's poles are actually the right length for me, feels better....and I might want slightly longer skis next time.

post #16 of 48

Try calling the shop you bought your skis at.  Maybe someone else went to the same sale, and are shopping for a replacement of the propper length too.

 

Or maybe Edelwies has a secret plan to keep you coming back to look for your rightful skis.  They have a storeroom full of skis and swap them out when you duck in to the washroom for a couple of minutes.

post #17 of 48

Theft is the threat that never goes away.

 

I've got two pair of desirable skis - Volkl AC50's and Gotama's.

 

Whenever I put them in the rack, I lock one ski and split the other. 

 

But, if someones determined, they'll get 'em - even if you them locked in your car.

 

I just do what I can, and take whatever comes. 

 

If you've done your best, and they still get lifted, it's Karma. 

post #18 of 48

I always lock my ski's, even if i have to hold it in and almost piss myself.  I still feel bad because my ski lock cable is so thin, all you could need is a normal wire cutter.

 

Has anyone ever caught someone stealing their ski's before?  If i caught someone, they would be in a world of hurt...

post #19 of 48
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Originally Posted by Jay31 View Post

I just want to remind people to lock their skis/board whenever you leave them... 

 

 

Counts for rentals, too.

My shop got a phone call from a woman 2 states away, who had my shops rental Head skis. She was hoping we had her son's K2 rentals. It seems her son grabbed the wrong skis by mistake and was hoping the person who those skis belonged to had returned her son's. Well, he didn't and he paid for the stolen skis.

The woman expected a thank you and for the shop to pay for the shipping. Doesn't she realize she's holding stolen equipment. As soon as my shop gets thier skis back, my shop's customer will be refunded the money, but the lady 2 states away is on the hook for what her shop charges for the rentals if they don't show up.

 

Now, your scenario is probably correct and you should check with the shop in case they recognize the skis, but what if your 158's really happened to be stolen, and co-incidently, someone left their 172's in about the same spot.

post #20 of 48
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Originally Posted by 2-turn View Post

Now, your scenario is probably correct and you should check with the shop in case they recognize the skis, but what if your 158's really happened to be stolen, and co-incidently, someone left their 172's in about the same spot.

You are correct - that is always a possibility...but the poles were identical too (what's the chance?)...the binding settings were almost identical (damn!) and even I didn't notice the difference until I went skiing again.  The two sets of skis were left in about same spot, but on different parallel ski racks.  If someone comes to me claiming I have their skis, it will be difficult for them to prove that they belong to them without having my skis in return.  I put up noticed around though...so we'll see what happens...I received one call that was a false alarm, and a few 'how much?' inquiries.

 

Unfortunately, the shop was less than helpful when I called - I basically found that they probably could track down the record of the binding installation, but the manager said they had too many records to go through, the data was disorganized and they wouldn't be able to sort it out until the summer.  The shop is T&L in Ottawa, which isn't a big box store, but is easily the largest ski/snowboard chain in the area, so they move a lot of gear.  I don't think I've ever seen anyone else with Dynastar Contact 9s on the slopes here, so they can't be that common (as compared to some other models).

 


Edited by Jay31 - Thu, 05 Feb 09 15:08:34 GMT
post #21 of 48

Frustrating topic for me; my old skis were accidentally taken 3 times.  The last time was Xmas eve last year and I had to rent skis for Xmas (I was lucky to be able to get my hands on rental skis).  Recently, my poles got accidentally taken. I ended up taking the poles that were there (VERY similar looking poles but way too tall for me).

So, I got a lock (Dakine micro lock)---had to struggle to get lock open to lock skis to begin with then could not unlock skis to save my life.  Finally got someone with wire cutters.  I HATED THAT LOCK!!!  Anyone have lock recommendations?

post #22 of 48
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Originally Posted by Jay31 View Post
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Originally Posted by 2-turn View Post

Now, your scenario is probably correct and you should check with the shop in case they recognize the skis, but what if your 158's really happened to be stolen, and co-incidently, someone left their 172's in about the same spot.

You are correct - that is always a possibility...but the poles were identical too (what's the chance?)...the binding settings were almost identical (damn!) and even I didn't notice the difference until I went skiing again.  The two sets of skis were left in about same spot, but on different parallel ski racks.  If someone comes to me claiming I have their skis, it will be difficult for them to prove that they belong to them without having my skis in return.  I put up noticed around though...so we'll see what happens...I received one call that was a false alarm, and a few 'how much?' inquiries.

 

Unfortunately, the shop was less than helpful when I called - I basically found that they probably could track down the record of the binding installation, but the manager said they had too many records to go through, the data was disorganized and they wouldn't be able to sort it out until the summer.  The shop is T&L in Ottawa, which isn't a big box store, but is easily the largest ski/snowboard chain in the area, so they move a lot of gear.  I don't think I've ever seen anyone else with Dynastar Contact 9s on the slopes here, so they can't be that common (as compared to some other models).

 


Edited by Jay31 - Thu, 05 Feb 09 15:08:34 GMT


 

It is unfortunate that you have compounded an already bad situation. Your skis went missing, so you took someone else's. I have to be honest... I find it difficult to believe you did not notice at the time, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt...

I am also not wild about your attitude that if someone came to you and said they were their skis, 'it will be difficult for them to prove it'. One thing they CAN prove is that those 172 Contact 9s are not yours. You've already posted your story at Edelweiss, on this board, and I saw an advertisement of yours on Ottawa Classifieds last week which told the same story. I would say if someone contacted you claiming the skis and you would not hand them over they would be well within their rights to call the police, particularly if they had a receipt from a store for the same skis.
I should also point out that if you sell those skis you are essentially selling stolen goods. It's not a nice thing to say perhaps, but it is a fact.
The honorable thing to do would be to work very hard to find the owner of the skis you have, and then once you find that owner return those skis to them whether they have your skis or not.

post #23 of 48
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Laurentianskier, I really don't appreciate your accusatory attitude...you say that you will give me the benefit of the doubt, then go on a whole paragraph to practically accuse me of  being a thief.

 

Ask yourself this: If I really wasn't telling the truth, WHY THE HELL WOULD I POST CLASSIFIED ADS EVERYWHERE, PUT UP SIGNS, and POST ABOUT ON THIS BOARD???? 

 

Again, this is what happened: There are several rows of ski racks at Edelweiss.  I left mine one row...went inside to use hte washroom...came back...looked where I thought I had left my skis, but they weren't there.  So, I looked around a bit - and saw what I thought were my skis and poles, on the row beside where I thought I had left them...thought I just forgot where I left them... 172cm to 158cm is a big difference in skis,  but in reality...this is less than half a foot.  The poles were only 5cm longer.  I was in a hurry to leave hill, so I just grabbed them and went back to my car to drive home.  Had I noticed the difference, I would have immediately reported it (not waited 2 weeks) and then likely run to the lift lineup to see if the guy was there.

 

I say it would be difficult for the other person to prove that these are their skis because (like mine) there are no distinctive marks on the skis (or poles) to identify them.  The only proof I can think of might be the sales receipt from the T&L Warehouse sale....if the other guy has it.  But, if someone comes up to me claiming that these are their skis (considering all of the ads I've been posting), yet they have no proof and don't have my skis - why should I believe them?  Why should the police believe them?  They can go to the police if they want... in fact, I hope they do - at least if I find out they were stolen, I will know they are gone for good, and I should look for new skis.

 

As you've seen I have posted this in as many places as I can in attempt to get the other person's attention... I think that is the right thing to do - both to try and get my skis back, and to return this pair to its rightful owner.

 

PS Glad you saw one of my ads - shows I'm getting an audience.


Edited by Jay31 - Thu, 05 Feb 09 16:05:42 GMT


Edited by Jay31 - Thu, 05 Feb 09 16:08:35 GMT
post #24 of 48

I'm surprised that it took 22 posts for someone to point that out.  And YOU are indignant??

 

come on now.  what, exactly, would you call having skis in your possession that don;t belong to you??

 

don';t care what happened to the ones you did purchase---irrelevant actually

 

the term I'm not looking for is 'poetic justice"

post #25 of 48
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Alright people who like to call me a thief - I have skis that aren't mine, what do you suggest I do differently that I'm not already doing???  If someone can prove that these are their skis, I will gladly give them back.

 

And yes I'm being indignant - I don't like being called a thief...I find it very insulting.  If you want to get technical, the crime of theft requires intent, and I did not have any intent here.  I am doing everything I can think of to try and return these skis.

 

I feel I'm doing the right thing by trying to advertise this as many places as possible to get the attention of the owner of these skis.  If they have mine, I'll be doing cartwheels...if they don't..and they prove that these are their skis, I will give them back, and continue being sad over my lost skis.  I don't like skiing with other people's skis, and possessing these brings me no satisfaction at all.

 

I wish I had noticed that these skis were not mine at the time and not taken them, as I would have had a better chance to find the guy (only one chairlift was open), and could have reported it to the ski hill immediately...instead of 2 weeks later.

 

If these were your skis, wouldn't you prefer someone like me who's been advertising it everywhere, rather than someone who would just ski off with them or immediately sell them to make a buck? 

 

Given my situation, what am I doing wrong here?

post #26 of 48

thing is, just like many threads on here, you've already been given the best advice---you just didn't like it.

 

so....

 

whats it going to be??

 

you going to try harder to rectify YOUR poor behavior in taking someone elses property ??

 

BTW, didn't notice doesn't cut it, sorry, nor does I was in a hurry. 

 

what is the possibility that you remembered wrong in the first instance and there is some other skier out there wondering where his/her/its skis are now thinking they got stolen (which they apparently did).

 

or

 

will you continue to get indignant that people actually called you on that behavior?

 

edited to add:

 

On the other hand, the title of your thread is VERY GOOD advice,  locks can keep this from happening! 


Edited by skier_j - Thu, 05 Feb 09 16:55:30 GMT
post #27 of 48
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thing is, just like many threads on here, you've already been given the best advice---you just didn't like it.

 

you going to try harder to rectify YOUR poor behavior in taking someone elses property ??

Ok...I really want to hear it from you - even if you think other people have already given me the best advice (and I've read this thread very carefully), you clearly think I'm an idiot - perhaps I was an idiot to get into this situation...I certainly feel like one... so pretend you're dealing with an idiot.  What would do you, if you were in my shoes that I am not doing?  Please explain it very carefully, realizing who you are dealing with.
 

The only thing above that I can see that I haven't done...someone suggested donating them to charity... I think it would be better to try to find the original owner, which is what I am doing.

post #28 of 48
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 What would do you, if you were in my shoes that I am not doing?  Please explain it very carefully, realizing who you are dealing with.
 

 

I would turn over the skis that do not belong to me to either the resort where they were taken from or the police.  Continue to try to find the person that took yours, then tell them that you turned in a similar pair to the authorities.

post #29 of 48
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
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 What would do you, if you were in my shoes that I am not doing?  Please explain it very carefully, realizing who you are dealing with.
 

 

I would turn over the skis that do not belong to me to either the resort where they were taken from or the police.  Continue to try to find the person that took yours, then tell them that you turned in a similar pair to the authorities.

The resort knows I have these skis, as do the police (I filed a police report for my skis, including these details - the police didn't ask for the other skis).  I am a bit worried about what will happen to them if I just return them to the resort - I really don't trust the staff.  Anyway, I'm not going to ski them anymore - I only skied them one day when I found myself at another resort and just discovering my mistake... call the police on me for that if you want.  I have the skis sitting my car in the remote hopes that I'll get a call from the owner.
 

I realise I made a big internet faux pas and was posting while being emotional... and I have been quite emotional over this...  I was devestated about losing my skis the first day I found out... and extremely angry at myself for not locking my skies, putting contact info on them...or noticing my mistake earlier.  I frantically called all of the local resorts, the retailer and later the police.  When I thought I had calmed down enough, I posted this here as a public service announcement - in the hopes that other people wouldn't make the same mistake I did.  There was also a remote chance that the person they belonged to posted here...and I was hoping I might get some sympathy for my situation (guess not). When people started questioning my honesty, I became emotional again.

 

Thinking about it a bit more, perhaps you have reason to question my story.... I did screw up big time.  Although really, what would I have to gain by being dishonest on a public internet forum?

 

I will say this much - I'm by no means am I the first person to do this.  Honest mistakes do happen, and I even received a call from someone else who did the same thing (but with different skis).  I'm going to stop posting on this thread now... mostly for my blood pressure.  If the owner turns up here, they can PM me.   

post #30 of 48
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thing is, just like many threads on here, you've already been given the best advice---you just didn't like it.

 

you going to try harder to rectify YOUR poor behavior in taking someone elses property ??

Ok...I really want to hear it from you - even if you think other people have already given me the best advice (and I've read this thread very carefully), you clearly think I'm an idiot - perhaps I was an idiot to get into this situation...I certainly feel like one... so pretend you're dealing with an idiot.  What would do you, if you were in my shoes that I am not doing?  Please explain it very carefully, realizing who you are dealing with.
 

The only thing above that I can see that I haven't done...someone suggested donating them to charity... I think it would be better to try to find the original owner, which is what I am doing.

far be it from me to take words OUT of your mouth

 

I'm sort of surprised at the fluffing over the issues by our main "no Nanny state -- Mr. land of personal responsibility" hisself!

 

first of all, go back to the original story, you came out of the john and did not find YOUR skis here you THOUGHT you left them.  

 

Right away, from that point forward, most folks would have a heightened sense of what they were looking for --- and noticing differences, and 172 v 158 is a significant difference in length, would have been expected. 

 

The poles, assuming your assertion is correct that they were "the same pole" and if indeed they were, (powers of observation are certainly in question here tho), then both parties have identical good, just not teh ones they individually purchased.

 

However, if I found the skis not to be mine, I'd assume the poles would also not be mine and move on.

 

At that point, rather than scoop up and cart off the wrong skis and poles, I'd have done what has been suggested and contact the area management make out a report and be on my way licking my wounds and lemanting the loss of my ski's.  I'd also be inclined to insist on a police report ---you'll likely have trouble getting the area rep to agree---but not really their choice---have the gendarmes paged to the scene.

 

I would ALSO not announce on an intertube forum that I'd consider selling somtehing I came to acquire in a less than arms length transaction... (well maybe thats a poor choice of words)

 

My favorite movie line of all times is Jeff Goldblums character in "The Big Chill" talking about how he went from wild eyed and righteous journalism major to writer in a rag like "People Magazine".

 

He said, and I paraphrase....

 

" You can go months without sex, try going a day without 3 or 4 juicy rationalizations!!"

 

carry on

 

edited to add, good plan, I read your lasyt post after hitting send on this!
 

 

 

 


Edited by skier_j - Thu, 05 Feb 09 18:18:59 GMT
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