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Report from Stratton 09-10 Quick Blurbs

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 

 Just a quick run through along with some highlights.

 

Conditions..Conditions were almost too good. I would have preferred some more...err.. any ice to try these ski on. I didn't get to test everything the first day. 

 

K2:

Raider: Other than graphics, no change from last year.

Interceptor: Raider version of the Xplorer,

Crossfire: Waist got bumped to 74mm, this ski was the surprise of the testing (so far)

Fujas: 5/15 rocker for 09. A blast to ski. 

 

Head:

Joe: Mojo94 with no metal. Bleach, didn't ski well at all felt dead

Peak 82: Monster 82 w/o metal. Fun ski, but not a Monster any more, it was domesticated. Huge upgrade in graphics over Monster Series though

 

Blizzard:

Magnum 7.6: Smooth, light and lively

Magnum 8.1: Went with the wideride binding, very nice ski

Cross 74: For a $499.00 ski, performed fantastic for the money

 

Palmer

P01: Rocker with a very low tip profile. Fun ski, especially in the bumps

 

Volkl:

Grizzly: The switch works, prefer the switch in Dynamic mode. 

AC50: No change

AC30: Now 80 underfoot with a Wideride binding

Manta: What else do I need to say

Gotama: Super low tip profile a la P01 but camberless. 

 

Nordica

HotRod 84 FLAT: Much better ski without the XBi binding system. Skis like a real ski

 

Roxie:

Swell: Interesting concept. Wrong graphics for the market of the ski. 

 

 

 


Edited by Philpug - 2/8/2009 at 03:44 pm
post #2 of 24

I was at Stratton Sunday. The only place that I could find any ice was at the very top in places were it was wind scoured. Even the bumps weren't very icy, although I didn't ski Liftline, that's usually good for some ice. But you're right, just about any skis would have felt good in those conditions. The snow in the trees was about as good as it gets. Plan on hitting it next weekend, bouncing between there and Okemo. Hope it holds up until then, looks like it will.

post #3 of 24

With the AC30 now 80 underfoot ( almost like my AC4's)

 

Is there a real difference between the AC50 and AC30?

 

Thanks for your help!

 

CJ

 

 

post #4 of 24
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by cjinc View Post

 

 

Is there a real difference between the AC50 and AC30?

 

 

CJ

 

 

Yeah, 5mm. They do ski different. Quite frankly, I do prefer the Blizzard over them, 8.1 and 8.7's. They are lighter skis and more playful w/o loosing the speed and control. 

post #5 of 24

 Quite frankly, I do prefer the Blizzard over them, 8.1 and 8.7's. They are lighter skis and more playful w/o loosing the speed and control. 

 Have skied this season's 8.7 and 8.1, AC40, AC30, and one very brief run on the AC50's couple of weeks ago. He's got it right. Nothing wrong at all with the Volkls, very nice skis. But the Blizzards are just better.

 

Question: Did you notice a difference with the new Blizzard plate over this year's mount? 


Edited by beyond - Wed, 04 Feb 09 02:59:06 GMT
post #6 of 24
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post 

Nordica

HotRod 84 FLAT: Much better ski without the XBi binding system. Skis like a real ski

 

Go on...

post #7 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by beyond View Post

 Quite frankly, I do prefer the Blizzard over them, 8.1 and 8.7's. They are lighter skis and more playful w/o loosing the speed and control. 

 Have skied this season's 8.7 and 8.1, AC40, AC30, and one very brief run on the AC50's couple of weeks ago. He's got it right. Nothing wrong at all with the Volkls, very nice skis. But the Blizzards are just better.

 

Question: Did you notice a difference with the new Blizzard plate over this year's mount? 


Edited by beyond - Wed, 04 Feb 09 02:59:06 GMT

I think if the snow was harder, I would have seen that difference, but with the snow as soft as it was and not being able to ski the two back to back...no. 

 

I did also ski the Atlas, as Dawg says, real nice, it was as close of a feel to my old Titan as I have felt in an of these series. That is a good thing. I am told, although I didn't ski them, the Cronos and Argos are beefier this year. 

post #8 of 24

I got different info on the Cronus and Argos. I was told that the Cronus is the same except for the new wider IQ channel and that the Argos was not changed in construction but is 105mm underfoot and flat cambered.

 

I'm off to Alpine meadows this AM for day one of our trade fair. I'll seek clarification.

 

BTW: I agree on the Mag 8.7. It is superior to the AC 50 in versatility without sacrificing the "ice pick" edge grip.

 

SJ

post #9 of 24

Can anyone confirm that the Mojo94 replacement is more than just a cosmetic change? I wasn't sure they had any metal to begin with, but if it's a significantly softer ski, I might have to try and order up a pair of this year's.

post #10 of 24
Thread Starter 

Line Cronic Crypt: Very nice twin. Solid

 

Volkl Bridge: Not as nice as the Cronic

 

Kastle 82 (black): It's a Kastle, of course it's nice...and expensive

 

Nordica Girish: I have been on freight trains that were more nimble. LOL. Not my style ski. 

 

Head Peak 88: Get your Monsters while you can.

 

Atomic Double Deckers: WOW, real nice. Skied the vario sidecuts and vario flexes. Both skied great. 

 

Fischer: a $399.00 system ski. For the money, it skied great, like a ski that is $100.00 more. 

 

Blizzard Magnum 8.7 w/ Slider and Marker 20.0: Super solid interface, depending on binding, you can get a lower feel on the ski, more of a race feel. 

 

Fischer Cold Heat 74 and 76: Blizzard 7.4 and 7.6's are nicer at the same price points. 

 

Went back and did some side by side comparisons at size/price points. Revisited some skis to ski in varied terrain and speeds. 

 

 

 

 

post #11 of 24

No review on the Atlas to report?

post #12 of 24
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Magnus_CA View Post

No review on the Atlas to report?

Post #7...

 

I did also ski the Atlas, as Dawg says, real nice, it was as close of a feel to my old Titan as I have felt in an of these series. That is a good thing. I am told, although I didn't ski them, the Cronos and Argos are beefier this year. 

post #13 of 24

Nice reports,  Keep 'em coming.... 

post #14 of 24

More more!

 

Re the head monsters: a nicer graphic on a blah ski - doesnt sound like the way to go for me. Good job on that one Head

post #15 of 24

Here is a clarification on Cronus/Argos. The layup has not changed. However, the new, wider IQ channel has changed the torsional characteristics of all the skis to some extent. I skied the 180 Cronus yesterday and while not stiffer overall, it does feel somewhat grippier. The 8.7 felt the same to me as the one I've been skiing much of the last month (however, it's grippy as all get out anyway sooooo......)

 

Finishing up mid width skis today with 80-90mm AM twins and a ski or two that I missed, then switching to womens skis.

 

SJ

post #16 of 24

Anyone ski any of Atomic's new freeski skis? The Atlas the Coax and the Blog both all look like very nice skis.

post #17 of 24

I just want to say I love the quick reviews. We should have more of this going on. I'm sure I am not the only ADD person here.

post #18 of 24

Does the wider IQ channel on the Blizzards mean that an 08/09 binding will not work on an 09/10 ski?

post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by choucas View Post

Does the wider IQ channel on the Blizzards mean that an 08/09 binding will not work on an 09/10 ski?

Correct, the current IQ will not fit. 

post #20 of 24
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Originally Posted by CanuckInstructor View Post

Can anyone confirm that the Mojo94 replacement is more than just a cosmetic change? I wasn't sure they had any metal to begin with, but if it's a significantly softer ski, I might have to try and order up a pair of this year's.

 

Can't tell you about the new model, but the current 94 indeed has a metal layer (right under the topsheet).

post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by skier219 View Post
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Originally Posted by CanuckInstructor View Post

Can anyone confirm that the Mojo94 replacement is more than just a cosmetic change? I wasn't sure they had any metal to begin with, but if it's a significantly softer ski, I might have to try and order up a pair of this year's.

 

Can't tell you about the new model, but the current 94 indeed has a metal layer (right under the topsheet).

 

I think there is a second layer of metal in there, found out during a mounting error.

post #22 of 24
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by choucas View Post

Does the wider IQ channel on the Blizzards mean that an 08/09 binding will not work on an 09/10 ski?

Correct, the current IQ will not fit. 

But, if you are running a Duke,  you can get an adapter to make it fit.  Those skis are all sold as systems anyway unless w/special order, so there would be no use in getting a ski only, unless you broke your old pair and had the bindings laying around.

post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by karpiel View Post
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Originally Posted by skier219 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by CanuckInstructor View Post

Can anyone confirm that the Mojo94 replacement is more than just a cosmetic change? I wasn't sure they had any metal to begin with, but if it's a significantly softer ski, I might have to try and order up a pair of this year's.

 

Can't tell you about the new model, but the current 94 indeed has a metal layer (right under the topsheet).

 

I think there is a second layer of metal in there, found out during a mounting error.

 

Uh oh, not a layer right above the p-tex base, was it??  I'd hate to think about the mounting error that results in that discovery!   The Mojos are pretty thin in the tail area.

post #24 of 24
Thread Starter 

Last day reviews..

 

I most went back and revisited some skis that I liked earlier...

 

Rossi..All skied very well, but compared to other comparable skis, they were about $100.00 more. 

 

K2 Hardside: 5/15 Rocker Skied like the Mantra, just a bit easier into the turn. Nice for a lighter guy that wants a soft snow ski that will still be good on the hardpack. 

 

K2 ObSethed: 10/20 Rocker, real nice. Will probably stock this over the Fujas, just because of the better know name.

 

Atomic Smoke: For a 399 package ski (w/ binding), tremendous performance.

 

 

 

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