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Feel free to move this thread if I posted it in the wrong forum.


I am confused. Last year I took private lessons at Vail for three days with the intent to learn mogul skiing. My instructor taught me to not ski in the back seat (a very good tip) and how to carve properly. Both techniques I am glad I learned. But when we got to the mogul field, he wanted me to continue skiing the way I was skiing on the flats, mainly carving using my hips to initiate the turn and moving my hips to the inside of the turn. I stuggled. This year I decided to check out the internet for other ideas about why I couldn't ski moguls. I came upon the "stacked" technique of skiing moguls, using your knees to initiate the turn and keeping your hips over your feet (downhill ski).


Why is there such a discrepancy?  I was told that the PSIA does not teach the "stacked" aproach. Why not? Am I risking injury by using the stacked method.

post #2 of 5

 Honestly, that doesn't sound like a discrepancy to me. You want your body stacked relative to the ski so the forces are going through your body and into the outside ski. For sure, edging will be less aggressive in bumps than on the groomed, but it's similar movements at different intensity.

post #3 of 5
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But the difference is where the hips are. The instructor wanted my hips to shift into the turn where the "stacked" method has the hips remain stable and the knees initiate the turn.

post #4 of 5

That could be a miscommunication.  The instructor probably wanted you to get your hips over and into the new turn to pressure the shovels of the ski on the backside of the bump. So you don't leave your body behind.

post #5 of 5

Mitch, your hips need to be where ever they need to be to provide the desired state of balance for the desired type of turn.   There really aren't many options.  The options are more in the type of turns you want to make, and that's where the confusion seems to dwell here.  Carving arc to arc through bumps is not for the faint of heart, or those of average skills.  If you were trying to carve like you were on the groomers, it's not at all a surprise you were struggling.  Hopefully it was a mis communication between you and your coach.  Steered turns are the better choice for learning to negotiate bumps with confidence and grace, and a hips more laterally over the feet, rather than inside the feet, is more called for to maintain balance when steering.  Staying fore/aft centered, however, is good advice for both scenarios.   

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