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Recomended skis for heavy intermediate/advanced skier

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

I'm looking for a recommendation for a pair of skis to replace my ancient Volants. At 5'11, and 275lb, I'm a pretty big guy, so support is critical. I ski in the Pacific NW (cascade concrete, with occasional powder), with occasional trips to Whistler, and at this point ski mostly blue, and some single black runs.

 

I've tried the Volkl AC20s 177, on a recommendation from the ski shop, and noticed a massive improvement over the Volants (much tighter turns), better control, etc, and far more confidence on the black runs, however, like the Volants, they still vibrate when I pickup speed on the long groomed runs, and the back end tends to skid out on icy moguls.

 

Supposedly longer skis are better for big guys, but at the same time, I don't want to give up turning ability. Fat skis are also good for support, but since I don't get to ski often in deep powder, not sure this would be right either.

 

I'm planning to demo a few more skis, however, since demo's aren't free, I'd like to narrow the field as much as possible. Any good recommendations, especially from larger skiers would be greatly appreciated!

post #2 of 18

I think they are Volkl Wildcats....?
They might work.

They are around 170's and are fairly wide and hold a good edge.

my dad is about 230 with a pair and his are 168's. They seem to do really good for him. I have not seen or heard him complain about the tail sliding out on groomers or ice.
He does not do moguls, do I'm not sure about them.

post #3 of 18

Hi - At your size, skiing a 170 something in an intermediate ski is going to produce instability at speed, especially if you tend to get into the backseat and the tips decide they can wander. Also, while the AC20 is a nice ski, pretty narrow and groomer bound for the places you ski. Think about some of these, see what you can demo:

 

Dynastar Legend 8000, Head iM78, K2 Recon, Nordica Top Fuel or Afterburner, Rossignol CX80. 

 

These vary in feel, but share strong build for big guys, moderate to serious forgiveness, big upper end (you can get better with them), and ability to cross over from groomed to moderate soft snow. Go for longest model (high 170's to low 180's depending) in all of these.

post #4 of 18

With out hesitation i would recomend Nordica Helldrivers or Jet fuels. I have the Jetfuels and am 230lbs 6ft and they are a tough burly ski, top line build buy todays standards or any times. Wood core titainal stringers. Cant go wrong. i would get the helldrivers only because they would be a better one quiver ski. They have TONS of side cut like the jets but a little wider tip for floating you when you need a ski for the snowy days. They will rail the groomers as good as any carving ski or better with a driver your size also. 132/90/118 get a 178cm length. You must try a pair you will be shocked how good they are from ice to powder and every snow condition in between! The jetfuels are 126/84/112 get in 178 but if theres a 184 from last year around try that length. This year the longest is 178. The deals are happing now good time to buy. I paid 700 tax in Cad two weeks ago for my jets. I would have bought the helldriver but they were out. I skiied the demo last week for kicks! WOW. The helldriver still railed the groomed but way better in the powder than the jetfuels. The jetfuels ski faster on hardpacked and arch a better turn. They feel more front side ski than the helldrivers. The helldrivers for your size though would feel still quite front side oriantated. Thats why the exta width I would recomend for you. You could pressure the 90mm waist like I can the 84mm waist if you follow me on that.

post #5 of 18

Try also the Head Monster 72 Liq Metal if you can it does great on ice and less chatter at higher speeds or even the Monster i.M 77's... think you might like either one of those!

post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thanks. Demo'd the helldivers 178s today (Snoqualmie, about 6" of fresh, mostly groomed), and did not have a good experience. Much, much less edge grip than the Volkl's, and the tips were flapping on the fast groomed runs. Also needed to be driven pretty hard (ie: driving tips forward, all the time), to carve turns. These ski's were hard work, although I could tell that once pushed, they like to go really, really fast!

 

Any other suggestions would be good, I'm going to try the AC50's next, since the AC30's were pretty good.

post #7 of 18
I am in the same spot as the op. I am 6'3, 270 lbs. I live in lake tahoe and am an intermediate/advanced level. Right now I am using volkl ac2's and I am looking to upgrade. I was thinking about getting the volkl kendos but I don't really know if they would work for me. Right now I am skiing mostly groomers (blue-double black) and haven't gone of piste too much because the ac2's don't perform too well in anything deep. Any advise would be helpful. I want an all-mountain ski that works in every condition. Thanks.
post #8 of 18

Welcome to EpicSki!

There are some good options out there for someone looking for that all mountain experience, especially for someone who lives in the Tahoe region.  the first ski that comes to mind is the Blizzard 8.7, if you're looking for a ski that can take you all over the mountain and has edge grip.  If you're thinking about something that is a bit wider and has a stronger powder bias but is still a decent all mountain ski, the Blizzard The One is a good option.  

Not having skied many of the unisex skis in testing this year, I'll let others chime in about some other great options.

 

post #9 of 18
The one's are interesting to me. I was also looking at kendo's and mantra's. I just don't know where to start. Plus being broke doesn't help either. I might just get new boots this year, ride the ac2's for another season and get the skis next year. We'll see.
post #10 of 18

Whatever you do, make sure to get some advice from someone in a similar weight class and to keep that in the back of your mind when reading reviews... skis can be so different for different-sized people.  I like the Kendo's but I weigh 165 pounds so my recommendation would be completely meaningless.

post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by Jsauce75 View Post

I am in the same spot as the op. I am 6'3, 270 lbs. I live in lake tahoe and am an intermediate/advanced level. Right now I am using volkl ac2's and I am looking to upgrade. I was thinking about getting the volkl kendos but I don't really know if they would work for me. Right now I am skiing mostly groomers (blue-double black) and haven't gone of piste too much because the ac2's don't perform too well in anything deep. Any advise would be helpful. I want an all-mountain ski that works in every condition. Thanks.


You are in kinda a quandry, you are a bigger guy (not fat (assuming) but damn big) so you need something that will hold up your weight and not fold under you, hence stiff but as a solid intermediate, do you have the skills for it? Skis that come to mind (in that 180+cm range) and 90ish underfoot. Nordica Enforcer and Blizzard Atlas (both on sale and have your size in stock) come to mind.  We do have a pair of 181 K2 Aftershock demos that would be a good choice at 85 underfoot, at 499.00, these would help you hone your skis and also be significantly better than what you have. 

 

Also, bring your AC2's to our consignment sale over Labor Day weekend, a great place to unload them to get store credit. 


Edited by Philpug - 6/5/11 at 11:33am
post #12 of 18

I love my 177 The Ones's at 6' 165lb. Skied skis similar to the AC2 for years and really like the additional capability of the rocker Blizzards. Have no idea what size you need - I'd guess two sizes larger at your level.

post #13 of 18

At 263 lbs, most skis out there won't hold up to the beating!  I'm on Volkl Code Speedwall, by far the best ski I've been on for speed and stability.  No wet noodles, they track really well.  Love big fast GS turns.

post #14 of 18
Check out the Fischer Motives. I'm 6'2 260 and they work well for me. I've between on them three seasons now and am very happy.
post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by fscott View Post
 

At 263 lbs, most skis out there won't hold up to the beating!  I'm on Volkl Code Speedwall, by far the best ski I've been on for speed and stability.  No wet noodles, they track really well.  Love big fast GS turns.


Welcome to EpicSki!  You'll find plenty of company who are your size.  The OP started the thread several years ago, so is probably not looking for suggestions but others may be interested.

post #16 of 18

LOL didn't even notice the original date.

post #17 of 18

I am 6'3'' 300 pounds... I used to be very good, but stopped going for about 10 years. I have gone about five times this year and would say I am intermediate to almost advanced. I would anticipate that another 5-10 trips and I would be pretty strong. I have zero interest in glade skiing, not particularly in love with the steeps and really like to cruise. I would like something I can use now, but will still be happy with once I get my legs back. Any suggestions? 

post #18 of 18
edit - moved to newer thread created by @JoeB603 
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