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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

The problem of the overly-obvious "edited" notices has already been raised. But I think that a much bigger problem is that, apparently, posters now have unrestricted editing capabilities for their own posts, with no time limits.

 

Someone please fix this--quickly--before too many people go back and try to "rewrite history"--or, as Ott so eloquently and succinctly put it years ago, to try to "unring a bell."

 

Over the years, we have had lengthy and animated discussions about the pros and cons--and dangers--of editing. Unrestricted editing was possible once, years ago, and it led to some very big problems. We must go back to the previous restrictions in which, after the brief time limit expires, the opportunity for a legitimate edit still exists by contacting a moderator.

 

Please?

 

Best regards,

Bob

 

(PS--how come the check mark in the "subscribe" check box keeps flashing on and off as I type this message?)

post #2 of 17

Yea, that is very true. Sometimes we screw up and want to fix it, so having 30 mins to fix it is great. But more then that is just silly. This is not a developer sight where we want people being able to change the initial post anytime whenever they update their software or product.


Good catch bob!

 

Now we get to see telerod15 complain about editing posts because he cannot check his posts after he posts them or before he clicks the submit button.


Edited by Talyn - Mon, 02 Feb 09 00:13:49 GMT
post #3 of 17

Today I edited a post that I made yesterday after Nobody told me how to clean it up. This is the best feature of the new format. My posts are like wikis that I can change when I want to. 

 

Tayln, what are you talking about? Updating software? Products? I just want the ability to correct myself.

post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 

Telerod--you are a problem!

 

post #5 of 17

 Bob, I don't think we should be catering to people who get upset when someone changes a post. Whether correcting spelling or grammar, or correcting something that was wrong or to remove something that others found offensive, consider posts the property and opinion of the writers, like little wikis that can be updated as new information is processed. 

post #6 of 17

There has to be a time limit.  Otherwise many times the thread gets destroyed by apparent non sequiters by subsequent posters.  Unless they are all going to be notified that the guy ahead of them has changed his post, which they responded to, and then they can all change their posts accordingly.  The result would be there are no new posts as we'd all be busy continually rewriting our old posts. 

post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post

 Bob, I don't think we should be catering to people who get upset when someone changes a post. Whether correcting spelling or grammar, or correcting something that was wrong or to remove something that others found offensive, consider posts the property and opinion of the writers, like little wikis that can be updated as new information is processed. 

Read your post after you post it.

 

The problem with the lack of time limit is for the people who start flame wars, and then after the flame war starts, they go back and edit their post to make it look like they didn't start it.


Stuff like that.

 

Its kinda like the same theory as why you lock up your stuff.
You lock your things not to keep the theives from stealing it, but to keep honest people honest.
if a theif wants your stuff, he's going to take it no matter what you do, thats part of being a theif. same thing with people who are going to flame you, they will make sure they create backups of your posts to flame the shit out of you cause you were being a moron.

I hope i didn't over explain that.

 

This is one of the main reasons for a preview button on your posts.
We joke every now and then on another forum when we quote somebody right after they post, and they read it and it looks funny so they edit, but we caught them with a quote already, and we go "haha, caught ya before you edited."


Like i said before, this is not a developer sight for software and such like PPCGeeks.com, where there is no time limit. People who post stuff like software or roms and what not need to edit their post all the time for updates and stuff.
You should think about what you say and fix it before the time limit is up.

here check out my previous post after you read this one.

post #8 of 17

Not only is it unlimited, but each time you edit a "last edited" sign gets stuck on the end.  Make multiple corrections, and multiple "last edited" signs become attached.  However, if you edit again, you can delete or mess with the previous "last edited" lines if you wish.


Edited by newfydog - Mon, 02 Feb 09 00:32:07 GMT


Edited again by newfydog - Mon, 02 Feb 09 00:32:18 GMT


Edited one more f***n time by newfydog - Mon, 02 Feb 09 00:32:31 GMT


Edited ad nauseum by newfydog - Mon, 02 Feb 09 00:33:04 GMT


Edited by newfydog - Mon, 02 Feb 09 00:34:35 GMT
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by Talyn View Post
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post

 Bob, I don't think we should be catering to people who get upset when someone changes a post. Whether correcting spelling or grammar, or correcting something that was wrong or to remove something that others found offensive, consider posts the property and opinion of the writers, like little wikis that can be updated as new information is processed. 

Read your post after you post it.

 

The problem with the lack of time limit is for the people who start flame wars, and then after the flame war starts, they go back and edit their post to make it look like they didn't start it.


Stuff like that.

 

Its kinda like the same theory as why you lock up your stuff.
You lock your things not to keep the theives from stealing it, but to keep honest people honest.
if a theif wants your stuff, he's going to take it no matter what you do, thats part of being a theif. same thing with people who are going to flame you, they will make sure they create backups of your posts to flame the shit out of you cause you were being a moron.

I hope i didn't over explain that.

 

This is one of the main reasons for a preview button on your posts.
We joke every now and then on another forum when we quote somebody right after they post, and they read it and it looks funny so they edit, but we caught them with a quote already, and we go "haha, caught ya before you edited."


Like i said before, this is not a developer sight for software and such like PPCGeeks.com, where there is no time limit. People who post stuff like software or roms and what not need to edit their post all the time for updates and stuff.
You should think about what you say and fix it before the time limit is up.

here check out my previous post after you read this one.

 

He said she said. Who cares? I demand the right to change my mind. My post is my property. Why are YOU locking up MY property??

 

Sibhusky, you can quote a post, OP can't change what is quoted in your post. If your response to my post insipres me to change what I have written, that is a good thing. The re-written post is almost always better informed, less offensive, etc. compared to the original.

post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post

Not only is it unlimited, but each time you edit a "last edited" sign gets stuck on the end.  Make multiple corrections, and multiple "last edited" signs become attached.  However, if you edit again, you can delete or mess with the previous "last edited" lines if you wish.


Edited by newfydog - Mon, 02 Feb 09 00:32:07 GMT


Edited again by newfydog - Mon, 02 Feb 09 00:32:18 GMT


Edited one more f***n time by newfydog - Mon, 02 Feb 09 00:32:31 GMT


Edited ad nauseum by newfydog - Mon, 02 Feb 09 00:33:04 GMT


Edited by newfydog - Mon, 02 Feb 09 00:34:35 GMT

 

Haha, obviously you have discovered that the edit notifications can be edited. Those of us who are constantly rephrasing our posts will learn to delete previous edit notices.


Edited by telerod15 - Mon, 02 Feb 09 01:00:32 GMT
post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
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Originally Posted by Talyn View Post
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post

 Bob, I don't think we should be catering to people who get upset when someone changes a post. Whether correcting spelling or grammar, or correcting something that was wrong or to remove something that others found offensive, consider posts the property and opinion of the writers, like little wikis that can be updated as new information is processed. 

Read your post after you post it.

 

The problem with the lack of time limit is for the people who start flame wars, and then after the flame war starts, they go back and edit their post to make it look like they didn't start it.


Stuff like that.

 

Its kinda like the same theory as why you lock up your stuff.
You lock your things not to keep the theives from stealing it, but to keep honest people honest.
if a theif wants your stuff, he's going to take it no matter what you do, thats part of being a theif. same thing with people who are going to flame you, they will make sure they create backups of your posts to flame the shit out of you cause you were being a moron.

I hope i didn't over explain that.

 

This is one of the main reasons for a preview button on your posts.
We joke every now and then on another forum when we quote somebody right after they post, and they read it and it looks funny so they edit, but we caught them with a quote already, and we go "haha, caught ya before you edited."


Like i said before, this is not a developer sight for software and such like PPCGeeks.com, where there is no time limit. People who post stuff like software or roms and what not need to edit their post all the time for updates and stuff.
You should think about what you say and fix it before the time limit is up.

here check out my previous post after you read this one.

 

He said she said. Who cares? I demand the right to change my mind. My post is my property. Why are YOU locking up MY property??

 

Sibhusky, you can quote a post, OP can't change what is quoted in your post. If your response to my post insipres me to change what I have written, that is a good thing. The re-written post is almost always better informed, less offensive, etc. compared to the original.

your words are always your words, but soon as you hit submit, it is no longer your property, it is your opinion on paper.

I totally agree though, why can i not change my mind?
Just post about your new findings in a new post, don't edit your old one.
It screws up threads if you edit your post long after the discussion is over as well.
That isn't cool.

post #12 of 17

Hey, where's the delete button? I want to remove this post.


Edited by telerod15 - Mon, 02 Feb 09 12:13:52 GMT
post #13 of 17

The problem with unlimited edit is that people may have quoted and/or responded to what you wrote before.  So then it becomes confusing when someone comes in later on and reads the whole history. 

post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by skier219 View Post

The problem with unlimited edit is that people may have quoted and/or responded to what you wrote before.  So then it becomes confusing when someone comes in later on and reads the whole history. 

 

That or if somebody changes all their old posts to say bad or incorrrect info because they got upset.

what not. there are lots of reasons.
he's just being a rod. =)
 

post #15 of 17

Even more mischief is possible.....


Edited by Bob Barnes - Reason---Did not place a plug for Keystone Mon, 02 Feb 09 08:08:35 GMT


Edited by Phil Pug:  Forget Keystone, nothing gets by my moderation without talking up Hart skis!! - Mon, 02 Feb 09 08:09:57 GMT


 

 


Edited by newfydog - Mon, 02 Feb 09 08:15:34 GMT
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post

Even more mischief is possible.....


Edited by Bob Barnes - Reason---Did not place a plug for Keystone Mon, 02 Feb 09 08:08:35 GMT


Edited by Phil Pug:  Forget Keystone, nothing gets by my moderation without talking up Hart skis!! - Mon, 02 Feb 09 08:09:57 GMT

 

That's a good one.
Gave me a great laugh!

post #17 of 17

I like this discovery!  For now.

Unlimited time in editing makes the forum become a chat room, no?  Sorry, telerod, we did try that before and was not so good.

 

I believe it was the painter Bonnard who use to bring paints and brushes to his own shows - even at museums, and touch things up!  Now there's a dillemma for a curator!

"Really, It was good, leave it!"

"No! It can be better!"

"Have you tried the cakes yet?"

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