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post #61 of 88

What a tool.

post #62 of 88

 

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Originally Posted by gramboh View Post

Uh, the guy in these videos is Scott Vail. The one and only Scott Vail. He won X-Games slopestyle and pipe this year. Candide, Tanner and Seth have all said he is on top of the game in all areas besides racing (big mountain, slope, pipe, urban). He is progressing progression beyond what most thought possible on skis. I'm thinking about taking a month long trip to Keystone in March just so I can try to keep up with him for 30 days straight.


If he is Scott Vail, then I am Bode Miller.

 

 

 

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I agree that stretching is good, but when you stretch a cold muscle you are stretching it when it is at it's least elastic, thus running a much higher risk of tearing it. Think of the difference between stretching a piece of gum before and after you chew it. When you stretch it out of the wrapper it's brittle and will tear. When it's chewed up it's warm and elastic and can stretch much farther. It's the same with your muscles. It's so much safer to stretch after a light workout...say a 5 to 10 minute run, or perhaps a few runs down a green trail to warm up (I just say green because you're less likely to fall and injure yourself before you've stretched). So I'm sorry, but it's a fact that stretching a cold muscle is not a safe practice. Yes you can stretch it and nothing may happen, but why take the risk of an injury when all it takes is a few minutes of warming up ahead of time to reduce that risk drastically? 

 

Stretching is always good, but stretching a cold muscle does nothing, you are correct. I said nothing of what I did before stretching. However, I've always gotten hurt warming up without stretching before stretching.
And any sports activity I've ever done, we have stretched before anything. Especially wrestling, because it is very important there.

post #63 of 88

I think it must be Scott at Vail.

post #64 of 88

I don't care who the fool is or what his accolades might be.  Those instructional videos are a joke, probably intentional.  The lame spread eagle across the top of the mogul is the dead giveaway.

 

Putting on your boots and carrying your gear to the lift is sufficient activity to be warmed up enough for light stretching before skiing


Edited by crgildart - Wed, 04 Feb 09 01:42:15 GMT
post #65 of 88

This is what expert village gives for Scott's bio:


Scott Vail has been skiing since he was 6 years old. He is currently an instructor and loves teaching everyone from kids to adults. Scott competes every year in all categories from moguls to racing.


I wonder if he teaches at Keystone! Bob would not be happy!!

There's also a Scott Vail who's a professional golfer but looks a lot different.

Obviously expertvillage doesn't vet their products.

 

On the sheep front, Talyn, is it really that hard to tell a sheep from a goat?

post #66 of 88
Thread Starter 

"Stretching is always good, but stretching a cold muscle does nothing, you are correct. I said nothing of what I did before stretching. However, I've always gotten hurt warming up without stretching before stretching.
And any sports activity I've ever done, we have stretched before anything. Especially wrestling, because it is very important there."

 

Oh well then I don't think we have much of an argument. I'm all for stretching before serious activity, just not a cold muscle that was all I meant. I just don't like that in the video he makes no reference to not stretching before some kind of warm up which on top of all his other bad or incomplete advice is probably going to get someone hurt.


Edited by cabrown317 - Wed, 04 Feb 09 02:33:08 GMT
post #67 of 88

Xavier Bertoni won the super pipe this year, and TJ Schiller won slopestyle, so I asume that was all a joke.

post #68 of 88

I just watched the advanced tips and techniques by S V and it has to be a joke.  It is completely lame.

post #69 of 88

It rarely is hard to tell a goat from a sheep.
Some goats do look more like sheep, or sheep look more like goats.
There are some hair sheep and they look somewhat like goats, or some small sheep, when sheered that could look like a goat. But like she said, the tail is the easiest way to tell.

 

The guy teaching the videos I highly doubt is the guy they say it is. If he really was a good skier, he would never give out bad info to somebody, and it woudln't be in a parkinglot.

 

 

Before stretching, one of the simplest and easiest things to do is to jog in place for 10 seconds and then do about 10 jumping jacks.
I do push ups and sit ups and jogging in place to warm up, then stretch.  Your not abusing muscles, but your getting them working quickly.

post #70 of 88
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Originally Posted by Talyn View Post

 

The guy teaching the videos I highly doubt is the guy they say it is. If he really was a good skier, he would never give out bad info to somebody, and it woudln't be in a parkinglot.

 

Pretty sure it's the dude from the  Sham Wow! commercials.

 

I don't know, it just sells itself.

post #71 of 88

 

Based on the following evidence it is my conclusion that the pantload in these videos is in fact the estranged half-nephew of Mighty Putty "inventor," Billy Mays: 

 

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/Deal_or_Dud__Mighty_Putty

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkuReA-AGa8

 

 

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Originally Posted by billyymc View Post
Pretty sure it's the dude from the  Sham Wow! commercials.

 

I don't know, it just sells itself.


 

post #72 of 88

to bad you cannot really succesfully type out a successfull lisp like he has in the shamwow commericals.
Hell i wish i could turn a lisp on.

Disclamer

Not trying to offend people with lisps.

post #73 of 88
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Originally Posted by redsled View Post

Hey it's not all bad info.  I'm gonna start leaning forward to get into an aerodynamic position.  Might help the height of my spread eagle.

I'm gonna try it too.  You guys are too harsh on this guy.
 

 

Just because he's not PSIA... maybe he's from another organization

 

 

post #74 of 88

OK, I just came across these videos and they have got to be a joke. Whoever the dude in the videos is, he can not ski. He's not even faking it. There's only so much you can fake. I guess these are kind of old....does anyone know if they were a joke of some sort or not?

post #75 of 88

Those videos are now part of internet ephemera history.

 

But for those who would like some other laughs you can listen to this font of knowledge (who makes the mistake of identifying himself as one Rob Browning) :

 

http://www.ehow.com/video_6197940_powder-ski-techniques.html

 

I especially love how he lists the equipment you need at the beginning of each segment: "ski boots, ski poles, and skis, along with appropriate winter dress and apparel."

 

post #76 of 88
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Originally Posted by aschick View Post

Those videos are now part of internet ephemera history.

 

But for those who would like some other laughs you can listen to this font of knowledge (who makes the mistake of identifying himself as one Rob Browning) :

 

http://www.ehow.com/video_6197940_powder-ski-techniques.html

 

I especially love how he lists the equipment you need at the beginning of each segment: "ski boots, ski poles, and skis, along with appropriate winter dress and apparel."

 



I guess his pro wrestling career wasn't working outroflmao.gif

post #77 of 88

Oh, yeah, looks like PSIA is in a world of hurt...  The "expert" advice on skiing double black diamonds is priceless.  Thanks for the good laughs...
 

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Originally Posted by aschick View Post

Those videos are now part of internet ephemera history.

 

But for those who would like some other laughs you can listen to this font of knowledge (who makes the mistake of identifying himself as one Rob Browning) :

 

http://www.ehow.com/video_6197940_powder-ski-techniques.html

 

I especially love how he lists the equipment you need at the beginning of each segment: "ski boots, ski poles, and skis, along with appropriate winter dress and apparel."

 

post #78 of 88


 

Quote:
Originally Posted by aschick View Post

Those videos are now part of internet ephemera history.

 

But for those who would like some other laughs you can listen to this font of knowledge (who makes the mistake of identifying himself as one Rob Browning) :

 

http://www.ehow.com/video_6197940_powder-ski-techniques.html

 

I especially love how he lists the equipment you need at the beginning of each segment: "ski boots, ski poles, and skis, along with appropriate winter dress and apparel."

 


I lack the vocabulary to even begin describing everything wrong with this video, so I'll just post this:  ROTF.gif

post #79 of 88

Links don't work anymore but I found the same ones on eHow.

Reposted for posterity?

 

http://www.ehow.com/video_2366804_do-spread-eagle-jump-skis.html

http://www.ehow.com/video_2366805_ski-moguls.html?cp=1&pid=1&wa_

post #80 of 88

Damn, that's some wicked air he got while doing that spread eagle.

post #81 of 88

Gems indeed... From the carving bit piece:

 

 

"The more you lean down, the more aerodynamic you become".  ROTF.gif

 

BTW, is this the official Keystone uniform jacket?  How did this gonzo get it? 

 

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Originally Posted by iKabrex View Post

Links don't work anymore but I found the same ones on eHow.

Reposted for posterity?

 

http://www.ehow.com/video_2366804_do-spread-eagle-jump-skis.html

http://www.ehow.com/video_2366805_ski-moguls.html?cp=1&pid=1&wa_

post #82 of 88

It's like watching a train wreck...  I just can't stop watching this stuff.  I'm so glad his wisdom is available again (i.e., on eHow instead of on YouTube).

 

I can't decide what the funniest part is...  his god-awful advice, his lack of skiing skill, or that he's giving ski lessons in a parking lot!

post #83 of 88

What kind of total lack of awareness of your place in the world would you need? It boggles the mind. 

post #84 of 88

WIDEN THE PIZZA!

post #85 of 88

Hopefully the owner will not mind if I put this up...

I saw this posted up here many years ago...

If i could ski moguls like this I would be in heaven...

I know the run he is skiing on..so that is even better...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUVX15HG0g8

 

Outstanding...IMO...

post #86 of 88

This is the funniest thing I've seen in awhile.  Too bad he didn't have a video of himself skiing moguls...but my guess is he can't ski them at all.  I like how on the "rails" video, he just goes on it straight.  Then finally, when I think he might be doing something that actually takes a bit of skill....it ends up being a video of someone else!!!  roflmao.gif

post #87 of 88


 

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Originally Posted by rspacher View Post

Hopefully the owner will not mind if I put this up...

I saw this posted up here many years ago...

If i could ski moguls like this I would be in heaven...

I know the run he is skiing on..so that is even better...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUVX15HG0g8

 

Outstanding...IMO...

I agree. I'm too old to slam every bump down the zipper line. I want to ski moguls so it looks/feels smooth and effortless like the guy in this video.
 

post #88 of 88


 

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Originally Posted by rspacher View Post

Hopefully the owner will not mind if I put this up...

I saw this posted up here many years ago...

If i could ski moguls like this I would be in heaven...

I know the run he is skiing on..so that is even better...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUVX15HG0g8

 

Outstanding...IMO...

Lazy pole placement and sloppy hand/shoulder movement.  He shrugs a little too which takes away some of his spine's ability to absorb, creating more work for his legs, ankles and cervical vertebrae. He gets it together towards the end of the run though.

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