Originally Posted by newfydog
Welcome to the Internet, Garrett. Apparently, you haven't been around it very long. Or software for that matter. Used Vista, yet?
..... ad hominem or other such personal attacks will not be tolerated.
Anyone see something hypocritical in these two statements being in the same post?
Insulting Garrett does little to fix the shortcoming of the new format. And pointing out that Vista is also a disappointing upgrade is irrelevant. Not a good example to emulate. If you don't want our opinion, just close all these threads.
ssh and Garrett,
Please continue the back and forth as it's most entertaining!
Really ssh, mentioning Vista as some sort of 'let's lower the bar to the ground' technique of discussion is not going to work. It doesn't play well out here, in fact it just illustrates how you're getting hammered in this discussion. So far, it's playing like John McCain's statement that "The economy is strong" at precisely the time it's falling apart.
Also, "They're not bugs, they're missing features"? Dude, have you read that again? I think there is something disturbing to people about the statement.
You're not being insulted, the results seen are being insulted. Isn't that what feedback is about? When everyone hates something, it's best not to pull out your expertise label and say it's really ok. No one buys that and it just looks silly and out of touch with reality.
Basically what we've got here is a little like the guy who takes the family car on as a project while the wife and kids are out of town for the weekend. There was nothing wrong with the vehicle, he just wanted to upgrade everything and had everything planned out for months for the weekend install.
So Friday night he starts on the install, changing the engine management system to an open system that's fully user programmable and used by race teams. The brakes get upgraded with huge calipers, the integrated sound/phone system goes in favor of a new navigation system, and there's other interior cosmetic upgrades.
The first huge unforseen problem comes when it becomes apparent the present wheels won't fit with the new brake calipers. There's no way to fix this by monday, but somehow in a stroke of genius, he realizes that the temporary spare tire 'donut' wheel from a Taurus will fit with a little work. The machinist who does the work is impressed by the inspired workaround. The wheels are in differing shades of rust but that will get taken care of late Sunday night.
Monday morning comes, the wife sees the car she's supposed to drive now with four rusty donut wheels. "I'm supposed to drive that thing?" She liked the car, it was good looking, reliable had an integrated phone and a place to put her coffee. The daughter hears the commotion, comes to the garage takes one look at it and begins her emergency texting proceedures that are used for life's most embarassing moments.
Once in the car the wife ask's how to plug the phone in and is told "you can't". When she finds out her cupholder has been removed to fit the new not as yet functioning nav system, she's even less happy and throws her coffee cup out the window onto the lawn.
They barely make it down the street when the engine shuts off because she's exceeded 4k rpms and the engine right now goes into fail safe mode. He forgot to mention it because she never revs that high anyway but now without the handsfree phone she left it in 1st gear too long. The daughter actually braves the cold in her inappropriate winter wear to document the embarassing moment. Everyone agrees they won't be driving into the school entrance which is a good thing because with the donut wheels the car is too low to fit over the curb. Then they start discussing how much they liked the old car.
In terms of the community of car modifiers, his achievement is fantastic. They're amazed by what he pulled off. So what if it lacks a certain functionality, that can be fixed eventually but the performance improvements will be worth it. In terms of the community of the family who use the car, it's a disaster because of the lack of functionality and current hideous looks. Who knows where it'll end up.