Originally Posted by ssh
... That some features are or are not part of the new platform is immaterial. Missing features are not "bugs", they are missing features. We have had a few real bugs, but they have been more "beta" than "alpha."
As I said before and stand by now: the features that EpicSki has today, tomorrow, or may have in a year may or may not include even some of the "basic" features that were in vBulletin, and that is what it is. ...
Since it's relevant to the discussion the two of you are having, I'm going to reproduce my post from another of the zillion and one "these changes suck" threads percolating on Epicski now. In a nutshell, I think the Epicski owners would've served themselves better by more closely hewing to the features of the existing forum software, at least for the time being.
Originally Posted by nolo
Oh, and we're not going back to the old site. We're putting all our energies into getting this new site up to snuff.
Knowing that I'm going to initially dislike any change you make because it'll necessitate some acclimation on my part, my view of all this is to just let it sit for a while before I decide whether I like it or not. But, having spent a bit more time tooling around, and reading a lot of the observations made by others, it really does seem that there's quite a bit of forum functionality that is either missing, not readily findable, or significantly different from what was present before. I'm on board with what you guys are trying to do, as I understand it, but it seems to me the one thing you should've done to ensure the least resistance to changing the platform and adding/modifying functionality is to make sure, as much as possible, that the forums operate exactly as they did before (with whatever modification is needed to integrate with additional functionality, such as wikis). And that doesn't seem to have been the case, since a lot of the replies to the forum problems are something to the effect of "yes, that can be fixed and made as it was before and we'll get to that soon." I also think that it would've made more sense to do the rollout during the (Northern hemisphere) offseason. Maybe there are reasons why it was felt necessary or advisable to make the switch now, with a lot of forum problems present, but it feels to me like you've shot yourself in the foot a bit with respect to acceptance of the long term benefits of the change.
No need to reply (unless you like), just an observation. I think it'll all work out OK in the end, but I think it could've gone more smoothly.
Edit to add - I don't mean to suggest that modifications to forum functionality shouldn't be considered and made, just that that should be done later, not now.