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post #1 of 44
Thread Starter 

 Hi everyone, 

 

I was wondering if people could give me some feedback about where would be a good place to go skiing. I am learning to ski and my husband is very advanced. We live in the north east and my husband has been all over in this area. 

 

We want to go somewhere with beautiful nature, more remote (not jam packed or crowded), good food, and just overall very relaxing picturesque atmosphere. I'm not into an area with no real quality that has been pumped up with bars, night life, etc.

 

We have been looking all over - like Lake Louise (canada), tremblant (quebec), park city (utah), vail, zermatt, chamonix, basically we are all over the place! Its for 1 week in March. Any suggestions? Its so hard to choose based on your personal criteria when you have never been to a place. I really appreciate any help or suggestions based on what I am looking for. 

post #2 of 44

Alta, Crested Butte, Telluride, Big sky. That's my personal experience list. Hard to go wrong. Park City is not remote. Alta isn't either, but being up at the top of LCC, feels it.

post #3 of 44

Of your list, I'd pick Lake Louise, it's one of the most beautiful spots on earth and I've been there twice for Easter breaks and the lines weren't bad.  Lake Louise has at least two top notch hotels, the Post Hotel and the more famous Chateau Lake Louise.  Personally I'd pick the first one, it's smaller and less like a major city hotel in its feel.  Both are great places to eat if you choose to stay at a cheaper place. 

 

And of course, living at a place that meets your specs for beauty, remoteness, good food, and very relaxing, just come here, Whitefish Mountain Resort. 

post #4 of 44
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beautiful nature, more remote (not jam packed or crowded), good food, and just overall very relaxing picturesque atmosphere.

 

Of what you mentioned I'd look at Lake Louise (canada), (is there another one outside Kanada?) and consider Lake Tahoe for scenery and a nice feel. Vail's a zoo, Yupr's too far and with the time change you lose a day or two getting there and adjusting, and Tremblant's still on the least coast, at least as far as snow.

post #5 of 44

 Hmm what you want and your list kind of contradicts itself.  Tremblant is certainly pumped up and not remote.  Same deal with Park City and to a lesser extent Vail.  Looks like budget is not a concern given the rest of your choices.

Not sure if it would be worth it for a new skier to go to any of those places.

 

Staying on the East Coast I'd say Stowe or Burke (Burke is really remote, but not as many options for food however there is on EXCELLENT place not far from the mountain). Not sure about a week at either of those though.  How about the resort in NH that has it's own private ski area? The name is escaping me at the moment.  Lots of news coverage on primary night from there.  Dixville Notch area, very far north and very remote.

 

Hmm out west I'd say Big Sky, maybe Jackson.

 

Addition I hate the fact that on the new Epic, spell check via Chrome doesn't work, I'm sure this post is riddled with misspelled words.

post #6 of 44
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  How about the resort in NH that has it's own private ski area? The name is escaping me at the moment.


Possibly Balsams Wilderness?

post #7 of 44
Thread Starter 

 Hey guys, thanks for all the responses so far. You def don't have to limit the options based on what I listed - I really don't know much about these areas and was just throwing out names:) 

 

We were trying to stay away from NH or vermont, maybe not rightfully so, as my husband said skiing out west is better and has never experienced it first hand. Is there a big difference though? Because there def would be $$$ wise....

 

The only reason I put in europe was because I heard it isn't as cold and I really hate frigid temps! 

post #8 of 44

Skiing out west is generally better in March than back east. 

 

I'd make more of a blanket statement, but I don't want to start a war.

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Originally Posted by cups123 View Post

 Hey guys, thanks for all the responses so far. You def don't have to limit the options based on what I listed - I really don't know much about these areas and was just throwing out names:) 

 

We were trying to stay away from NH or vermont, maybe not rightfully so, as my husband said skiing out west is better and has never experienced it first hand. Is there a big difference though? Because there def would be $$$ wise....

 

The only reason I put in europe was because I heard it isn't as cold and I really hate frigid temps! 

 

post #9 of 44

If scenery is important for you to have fun, I'd suggest the lake Tahoe area. 

post #10 of 44

Just got back from Big Sky.  No lift lines.  The runs are so bereft of other people, it's almost spooky.  Miles of beautiful, well-groomed green runs.  Miles of absolutely scary, hair-raising, steep terrain.  You and your husband can take the tram to the top of Lone Peak and admire the view.  Then you can take the tram back down (don't worry, a lot of people do this, you won't stand out), while your husband skis down. 

 

There IS a little bit of nightlife.  Free films every night.  Live music.  One night, they built a "snow bar" complete with DJ and fireworks. 

 

The only cons are that it's expensive.  It's also high altitude - read up on altitude sickness and acclimatization.  And it's cooooold!  Bring more layers than you think you'll need.  I needed three layers plus a down vest plus a windproof shell plus handwarmers to stay warm, and that wasn't even on a particularly bad day.  The particularly bad day was - 22F.  We opted to take a snowcoach tour of Yellowstone that day!  Which is actually a great thing to do for a "rest" day.  If you haven't seen geysers or boiling acidic mud or bison that wander into the road and stare at you, this is your chance. 

post #11 of 44

March is a good time for lake louise. It is a really scenic resort with plenty of challenge for your husband, and some good cruisers for you.

post #12 of 44
Thread Starter 

So lake louise vs skiing in the west in general? Is it significantly colder in Canada? I want to go to the warmest ski resort possible hehe 

post #13 of 44

Basically, "altitude is more important than latitude".  But, in March, you're going to want to look for colder resorts, so the snow quality is better than it will be at warmer resorts.

 

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So lake louise vs skiing in the west in general? Is it significantly colder in Canada? I want to go to the warmest ski resort possible hehe 

 

post #14 of 44
Thread Starter 

Okay, so I just priced out some deals on expedia and apparently skiing in europe (like chamonix) is much cheaper than big sky, montana. I don't know if this is not including other costs that could run us high in europe but I figure if we can go to europe for less, then why not? 

post #15 of 44

For Relaxed atmosphere and remote, and varied ski skill levels,you can't beat Panorama BC.  From the 4000 verticle, intermediate groomers. to the extreme Dream zone, glades, bowls and bumps, there's something for everyone.  It means driving past Lake Louise and Banff and going south until you pass Invemer (a quaint town in the Valley below Panorma) until you come to Panorama Mountain Village.  A purely destination resort, no day traffic.  No huge night life but wonderful relaxing evening fun to partake in.  From hot tubs, to out door Grills, to dinner at the top of the mountain and a torche ski down, I find no other spot as fitting for a relaxing, enjoyable ski holiday, to totally escape the rat race and wild night life trappings.  It's also one of the most beautiful places on earth, nestled in the middle of the Purcell mountain Range.  They offer everything in skiing, have lots of snow, but sometimes lack the deeper powder of near by resorts, though you can typically find some powder in the bowls and the snow is generally very nice, there's no lack of coverage.  The price usually can't be beat either.  Well worth a look if you're looking for a relaxing, quiet, vacation.  It also sports an excellent ski school with very reasonable lesson packages if you with to partake in some while out there.

 

http://www.panoramaresort.com/index.htm


Edited by lady_Salina - Sun, 01 Feb 09 03:18:28 GMT


Edited by lady_Salina - Sun, 01 Feb 09 03:19:25 GMT
post #16 of 44

Yup, Balsams thats it.  I remembered it had a tree name, was spacing on what tree.

 

It looks like I screwed up on the quoting.  In the old version of Epic, I would've copied and pasted the quote into the edit.  Can't do that as easily anymore.

 

To the OP, yes west is generally much better.  If your husband is that experienced and has never been out west, go west.  

 

If you hate the cold that much, depending on your definiton of cold, you may not want to ski.  In March your looking at anywhere from 15-50 depending on ski area and luck with weather.  Then again, when just learning, you'll be working hard and plenty warm.

 

I'd avoid anywhere with high altitude (Colorado especially).  If this is your first time skiing as stated above, you'll be working hard.  THe last thing you want for that is altitude sickness.  

 

Good luck and have fun


Edited by dumpy - Sun, 01 Feb 09 03:55:40 GMT
post #17 of 44

I have always thought that from the east coast, europe makes a lot of sense

...but ifyou want remote, Montana would be a better choice than france.

post #18 of 44

If possible, Id shortlist a couple of places and check on the snow fall until March or end of February, to get a sense of which place got more snow so far.

Lake Louise is indeed very beautiful, a very special place and the skiing is fantastic, if you're thinking remote, it could work well. Sunshine  Village is very close and has great snow in March, could be worth a day trip or two.

Staying in Big Cottonwood Canyons near SLC, Utah is very quiet, yet very nice. You have the best skiing, 30 minutes away from the airport and the option of skiing Solitude, Brighton, Snowbird and Alta. Theres places to stay in a little village right by Solitude Mt. Resort, very quiet and relaxing.

 

 

 

post #19 of 44
Thread Starter 

I'm trying to get into skiing despite my absolute aversion to cold weather (and by cold I mean anything less than 65 degree) because my husband absolutely adores it. I want to give it a chance to see if I can get into it, you know? 

 

It worries me when "normal" people say it is cold on this forum (my husband complains that if anything he is "hot"! hard to believe) Because I am pathologically cold like all the time, lol...

 

I have narrowed down the list to Canada, Europe, and Utah. I'm thinking it will be best to stay in a small, cozy, lodge type place to save $$ because we aren't going to be there during the day anyway. 

post #20 of 44

less than  65 degrees is cold and you live in the North East?  North East Panama?

 

Honestly I think once you get out there and get moving, you won't notice the cold.

post #21 of 44

I see what you mean, and if your husband (like my guy) adores it, he must be at his best when youre out skiing, and thats about all I need!!

 

If you're thinking March, I wouldnt worry about the cold. Th ski pants and jacket + the helmet do the work, you can only be real cold once you're the Top of the World lift in Lake Louise with really strong winds, or up top of any mountain, but once you start exercising, its fine.

 

Im from Brazil, believe me, Im no fan of cold weather and when we plan our skiing trip thats not a concern.

 

I havent skiied Europe, but my personal sense is that it is a really different experience overall. If you're willing to travel far and do the money exchange and not speak the language (I guess), then sure. But you have great options around the corner (at least compared to my location) and going abroad seems like a bigger deal in terms of planning. But thats only me, please, Id go skiing anywhere right now!

 

Enjoy, bc planning is such a large part of it, so fun!

 

post #22 of 44

Haven't you all heard?  There's no such thing as bad weather, only bad equipment.  Put more clothes on!

post #23 of 44

Utah can get into the 40's and 50's in March, in the sun, then freeze overnight -sounds like it would make ice, but it really doesn't. Some of the best skiing and most powder comes in March. If it's Utah you're thinking of, I'd vote Alta or Solitude. But jeez, if Europe's cheaper, why not?  Never been skiing in EU, but I hear it's awesome.

post #24 of 44

Trying to gage some of your preferences:  scenic, mild temps, food, affordable.  I seriously doubt you’ll get a trip to Europe for less than Colorado or Utah, unless you have airline points, because airfare is about twice the cost, but a resort in Austria called Zell am See would fit your criteria.  Colorado should be very pleasant in March as would Tahoe.  Utah might be slightly cooler.  Anywhere in Canada will be colder.  For US west I would suggest Snowmass, CO, although is will be somewhat pricey.  Keystone, CO might also be good for you, although it may be somewhat busy in early to mid-March.  Another resort you might consider is Crested Butte, CO, somewhat remote and should not be too busy, has good beginner and expert terrain.

post #25 of 44

Vail Alta and Snowbird are my favorite mountains. But if you're just learning to ski the thing is you're not going to get out of them what you should. I'm not sure your skill level, but if you're new to the sport, deep powder, trees, and moguls are probably not going to be an option. Which really is the reason for spending all the money to go out west. That being said if money really isn't an option and you just want the best quality skiing the above mentioned have everything covered (though alta and snowbird are very much wanting in night life). Also steamboat is a great place for newer skiers to go as it's more of an intermediate mountain with great snow. It definitely has a relaxed atmosphere too and is quite scenic. Other posts are right though about Banff and Lake Louise being beautiful.

post #26 of 44

It sounds like you have many possibilities, since you're apparently not trying to go as cheaply as possible.

 

In general, the snow quality in the western North America is usually better than in the eastern North America, but not always. Check on-line ski reports.

 

In general, the snow quality in the western North America is often better than in Europe, but not always. Check on-line ski reports.

 

Europe offers amenities and experiences that are not available in North America, like skiing from village to village and finding amazing eating establishments on the way. Some places in Europe offer huge vertical, which is probably not important to you, but may be important to your husband.

 

Contrary to what your intuition might suggest, Canada is not necessarily colder than most places in the western US. Much of the Canadian skiing is at significantly lower elevations than it is in the States. The weather in southern British Columbia is often quite mild. I know, because I live there.

 

On the other hand, it can, and does, rain at the base of Whistler in March (or even January). Whistler has huge vertical, though, so the mountain still has more excellent skiing than you or your husband can do in a week. Unfortunately, Whistler may be suffering from a substantial infection of Spring Breakers (i.e., intoxicated college students) during March. (Actually, this caution can apply to almost any major North American ski area during March.)

 

The Pacific Northwest (including British Columbia) has had a relatively poor snow year so far. Check on-line ski reports.

 

Montana has some great skiing. It's also frequently cold. Snow may be marginal this year. Check on-line ski reports.

 

Colorado and Utah are good bets in March, except for the Spring Break crowd mentioned above. March is a big snow month there, and the altitude that causes you to wake up with a headache also contributes to light, dry snow, even that late in the season. Before British Columbia, I lived in Colorado for 23 years.

 

We might suggest Steamboat, which is at a somewhat lower elevation than most other Colorado areas. It has a semi-authentic town, a reasonable selection of restaurants, good shuttle service, and hot springs. They've had decent snow this year. As always, check on-line ski reports.

 

Utah would probably be a good choice, too, but I never made the trip from Colorado, so I can't tell you much.

 

Oh, and did I say to check on-line ski reports? Most areas in the west don't get decent until they're reporting at least a 60 inch base at mid-mountain. Some need a good deal more. If the area you're considering is reporting less than that by the beginning of February, you probably want to go somewhere else.

post #27 of 44

just consolidating from above :

 

since you and your husband are of vastly different ability, you will need either a huge resort with plenty of intermediate and expert terraine, or an area with several resorts, and you can go to some for you and some for him.  the huge and the scenic can be combined. the huge and the quaint, not so much.

 

your preference for climate eliminates everything in Montana and Wyoming and other Rockies areas depending on weather at the time.

 

and going with Sibhusky, and this is important, buy all the best warm clothing that is available, from boots to layers, to helmet. otherwise, all the other money is wasted cause it gets cold and you'll be miserable.

 

good luck, have fun, stay warm.


Edited by davluri - Wed, 04 Feb 09 00:38:53 GMT
post #28 of 44
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Montana has some great skiing. It's also frequently cold. Snow may be marginal this year. Check on-line ski reports.

 

At least here in Whitefish, conditions are great.  March is a long way off, though.  Anything could happen.  But usually it's great for the first half at least.  Latter half last year was great, but occasionally it can be sloppy due to warm weather. 

 

You really don't want warm weather, even if you think you do.  Sloppy snow is dangerous.

post #29 of 44

Look at my post in this forum - Sunshine Village is highly recommended. The inn on the mountain is nice, basic and perfect if skiing and unbelievable scenery and panorama is your thing. You could also visit Louise on the same trip for a day trip or two. web info for sunshine is www.skibanff.com

 

pics and video at this forum under my name "dustyfog" .

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/77136/best-destination-for-young-family

 

Sunshine season is on till mid May. It really is something else.

 

On a totally different tack, with euro in freefall, prices in the Arlberg look unbelievably cheap relative to the US, super-nice places like Lech or Zurs in Austria, could suit both of you in March especially.

Weblinks which might be helpful:

http://www.guggis.at/en/homeandnews.php

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/snowandski/3814832/Lech-Zurs-ski-guide-introduction-and-basics.html

http://www.lech-zuers.at/xxl/_lang/en/_season/at2/_area/585623/index.html

 

good luck, we are off to sunshine in mid april (my son and self...)

 

 

 

 

 

post #30 of 44
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...We want to go somewhere with beautiful nature, more remote (not jam packed or crowded), good food, and just overall very relaxing picturesque atmosphere. I'm not into an area with no real quality that has been pumped up with bars, night life, etc....

Let's see - if I read your criteria correctly it is: 1) more remote, 2) good food, 3) relaxing, picturesqe, and 4) quality/genuine atmosphere (though I wouldn't consider the Disney-like resorts of Vail or Whistler to fit this bill, but that's just me).  I also am assuming you want to go somewhere with a decent-sized base area or very-nearby town (i.e., with several or more restaurants), and decent snow and terrain.  That narrows things down quite a bit if you stay in North America. So...

 

  1. Forget places close to Denver or SLC (that means Keystone, Breckenridge..., Alta, Solitude...) - they ain't even close to being remote.
  2. Big Sky - not much there there.
  3. Sorry but IMHO the Canadian resorts don't fit the bill : the Canadian Rockies (i.e., Lake Louise, Sunshine Village)--while gorgeous--gets less-consistent snow than the US Rockies, Panaroma is probably also a "not much there there" place, and Whistler/BC...well...uh, if you don't like cold then try a very wet cold.
  4. I don't see how Lake Tahoe fits the bill?
  5. To me Snowmass is a little too manufactured-feeling.
  6. I'm not gonna recommend anything on the east coast (don't make me say why or it will get uglier).

 

Conclusion - Crested Butte (doesn't get much more remote and genuine than that), Taos (the base area is pretty small but man is it ever quiet, picturesqe and unique), Telluride (most beautiful place to ski in the US but very remote and pricey), Steamboat (my favorite ski area, with a real western town, and it will be warmer there than most other places due to the lower altitude), Jackson Hole (heck it's near the Tetons in Wyoming, 'nuff said), Aspen and Sun Valley (the originals but $$$), perhaps Park City (a bit too close to SLC to be "remote"), perhaps Big Mountain (never skied there but it fits your other criteria quite well), and perhaps Mammoth (it's remote and beautiful though the LA hordes do come there on the weekend and the town is struggling with its "quality" thing).

 

OTOH - while I have never skied in Europe it probably has a guzzillion places that fit your criteria (due to the completely different geography than the Rockies, and that unbeatable European quality thing)....  Enjoy!

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