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post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
If you wish. Really. ANYthing!
What seems right? What looks wrong?
Shoot. (I'm borrowing Gonz's Rhino Skin.)

post #2 of 18
It looks good, except for the boring black pants!!!!!
post #3 of 18
It's only one frame, but what I see is that hand dropping back, and it kind of looks like you are hunching your shoulders. I'd like to see you get your hands up and out more.
post #4 of 18
How about stand taller, it seems like your legs are bent quite a bit, like you are about to sit in a chair but you haven't planted you butt yet.
post #5 of 18
Without seeing the movement flow or pattern, it is hard to tell.

It appears that hips are behind feet (more knee bend than ankle bend?). If so, and weight is back, this would explain the amount of snow being displaced by tails, maybe by a heel push.

If this make sense to you, bring hips up over feet. Keep shin/boot contact, and try to keep tips engaged so they respond to tipping of your feet. Left to go left, right to go right (the tails will follow) [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #6 of 18
Hey, Arc, does that left hand look familiar? (Just trying to work out dchan's puzzle.)

Ryan, from your position in that part of the turn, I'd guess your turn "thought" is along the line of "up-down"????
post #7 of 18
Boy Ryan, you asked for it. It looks to me like you are following your skis well, and looking ahead to he next turn. You appear to me to be skiing more with your muscles than with your structure. Not that we don't use our muscles, but you appear static and rigid, and not very skeletal.

I'd like to see you open your joints more. Your knees, hips, shoulders, neck, lift the head, open your forearms and wrists. This would help you be more structural and probably more relaxed and able to respond. You look comfortable on skis, so I might just ask that you play with sets of turns focusing and working just on one joint or area at a time and help evaluate and give feedback on what happened when you did this. Working through the various joints might very well bring an awareness to cause and effect, and open up to some changes.

This is just a short general post from one still photo.

[ December 19, 2002, 06:44 AM: Message edited by: Ric B ]
post #8 of 18

From other posts I know that you lift so my question is when you do squats do you put something under your heel so that you don't lose balance to the rear as you squat down? And yes, this is related to the photo and your skiing. I sort of need the answer before I stick my neck out on this thing.

Also did you feel 'balanced' through the turn that this photo is an instant of.

post #9 of 18
Something to think about to help get forward on the skis. I always focus on keeping constant and firm pressure on the tounge of my boots. I also try and focus on the balls of my feet and making sure I feel more pressure there than in the heels. I would also say that you seem to be leaning into the turn (although hard to tell with one shot). Try squaring off your shoulders and focus on making the turn with the lower half of your body. Oh yeah and, nice skid lid!
post #10 of 18
My two cents worth. Looks great overall. Judging from the arc in the snow, looks like you had a good early edge transition, with enough patience to let skiis arc through, though the skis may have come forward a little putting you back in your stance a touch. I agree that maybe the arms need to open a little, though that's hard to judge, and they are both up with body (arms no falling back causing you to couter-rotate). Ideally you may want a slightly wider stance. Maybe think a little more upper/lower body angulation. I'd say look pretty darn good!
post #11 of 18
OK, this is a problem I’ve seen several times before. I’m surprised Ott hasn’t picked up on it yet. You need a yellow filter to give more natural colours. If you have access to Adobe Photoshop, or something similar, then try it. The yellow will balance the blue that is pervading the shot, and should provide a closer to true image.
Of course, if you were skiing on a blue day in blue snow, that’s a different matter.

As for the skiing, I'll just agree with my illustrious colleagues and bow to their superior knowledge.

post #12 of 18
Thread Starter 

Good. Yes, there is certainly at least a little consistent up-down in my turns, especially when I am over-emphasizing weight transition; but, anyway, yes, it's there.


I was focusing on balance issues throughout the ski trip, particularly on the first day, when this was shot. As far as whether or not I felt balanced HERE, I can't say that I remember skiing by James and thinking "I felt out of balance there."

And, I don't do squats, I do leg presses.

I wonder if the "rigidity" mentioned might be the torso caught at a particular moment in transition. I felt I skied fairly relaxed throughout.
Maybe not.

EDIT: also, yes, have been conscious of trying to keep shins against tongues and pressuring fronts of skis, and of getting OFF my heels when I feel myself get there.


[ December 19, 2002, 07:27 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #13 of 18
OK, Ryan, so the photo is of, say 2/3-3/4 through the turn and you're "down" to edge? You're also starting to bring the left hand in to get ready to plant that pole (with a little swing out of the hand) and extend for the next turn? Might you also be tilting the head slightly to the left thinking of maintaining an upright torso?

I'd rather see you standing more against the outside ski with a longer left leg, feeling the pressure on your arch, while thinking about sensing the right edge of the right ski under your foot. If this turn felt "normal" and "relaxed" to you, I'd guess that you feel your heels regularly toward the ends of turns and your usual initiation of a new turn is an "up and dive into it" move???

If you're standing more against a ski with the skeletal structure doing more of the support work, you can enter the next turn more smoothly by relaxing that outside leg, flattening both skis on the snow and then extending to maintain ski-snow contact when the skis are pointed more toward downhill.

If that's not enough to work on :~) you could add being conscious of your inside hand remaining somewhat forward and slightly higher than the outside hand and then having the outside hand aim slightly into the turn prior to the next pole plant instead of allowing it to swing in.
post #14 of 18
Thread Starter 
Good calls. Will take to hill.
post #15 of 18
it is hard to tell by looking at this one still shot, but judging by the way there is snow flying up from behind you it looks like you applied all your pressure at once. There is good inclination but you could use some more angulation. I like how all of your joints are bent. I would like to see your feet at least hip width apart (think space between the knees) so that your skis can work independently.
Question: what sort of radius were you doing here? short? long, fast?? Also, reaching your hands up and out in front would make your turn more aggressive and help you to get your weight forward. Imagine your goggles as a TV screen. you always want to have your hands in the "picture".
post #16 of 18
It is always hard to read from a static image but I agree with Arcmeister - you are in the back seat.

You are too upright in the upper body, your arms, shoulders and back are tight and you have too much bend at the knees. Your present stance will dramatically affect your ability to power your skis. What I can't see is your boots. If they have too much forward lean then you have to fix this before you can fix your stance.
post #17 of 18
Originally posted by ryan:
If you wish. Really. ANYthing!
What seems right? What looks wrong?
Shoot. (I'm borrowing Gonz's Rhino Skin.)

Without his reinforced blue pants, Ryan's flatulence was enough to blast away the snow and knock him off balance from a stationary postion. Ryan - weight both feet equally and you get your head down a bit more before you let it go.

PS The drill is much the same for females with the addition of a loud cough - (timing and sync of the cough is critical).

post #18 of 18

You crack me up.

Now: Ryan, I agree with those that say you are not relaxed. You probably knew the picture was going to be taken, and you froze up trying to look your best. Not unusual for many of us. Your right hand, of course, is too low and close to the body, thus you are partially in the back seat. The left had looks like it wants to do a pole plant, but it is a little early in the turn for that. Your legs are together, but your feet are too close. It almost appears that your boots may be touching. Your skis are on edge, but because you are in the back seat, you are skidding part of the turn [ snow spraying off of the tails of both skis,] so at best this turn could evolve into a partial carve.

So the photo to me seems to show a skidded back seat turn. Understand there is nothing wrong with this on an easier slope, if that's what YOU wanted to do. There are times when the skidded turn is fine. I don't beleive that is what you were trying to do in those snow conditions.

What seems most positive is that edges of both skis seem to becoming more engaged, as the turn progresses. You are looking down the hill, even anticipating where your next turn will take place. Your body seems pretty square to the path the skis are traveling.

I would like to suggest that you to check out the "ski technique" area of this months www.breakthroughonskis.com/ There are some ideas that may help you advance your turns so there is less skidding and more carving.
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