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post #31 of 43
 Hi Ski-Ra:

To me they felt like the tips were chattery, unstable and wandered on anything hard.  It was really hard to pressure the tips and they felt like i was skiing on the back 1/2 of the ski.  No switch or park for me.

Part of the problem was size. I had 179 and it was way short for me. I'm 6', 212lbs.  189 may have been better.

But I got on Armada jj's and mounted them on the suggested line and the effortless balance and engagement was a completely different experience.  I ski a 2010, 186cm  Gotamas on the 3 line (out of 0 - 6) and the feel really great, even on hardpack.

 If you mount too far backl on rockered skis you are loosing your lever/balance point between tip v tail and are ending up with a real short bit of edge on your tail.

You are a lot lighter than me, but, imho, I would go w/ the "Suggested" 3 mark on the topsheet.  There is no danger you will find yourself with a "Heavy" tip. Quite the contrary.

Hope that helps ;)
Edited by Gotama - 11/13/09 at 7:56pm
post #32 of 43
But  That would put him in the minority
post #33 of 43
Mount at the traditional (zero) mark. My wife is about the same weight as you & has the 169's mounted at +2, but has been debating whether to go back a bit to 0. There's no problem with tip dive or anything like that, it just feels like the tail is really long at. 
post #34 of 43
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But  That would put him in the minority
 
Indeed, though I think Gotama was also on a ski that was way too soft and short for his weight. 
post #35 of 43
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Mount at the traditional (zero) mark. My wife is about the same weight as you & has the 169's mounted at +2, but has been debating whether to go back a bit to 0. There's no problem with tip dive or anything like that, it just feels like the tail is really long at. 
This sounds like the winning (and consensus) advice, especially the point about the long tails (which seem to be nearly universal about these sks).  Will head to the ski shop tomorrow, look at where the traditional (zero) mark puts me vs. some other TT's I've skied and go for it unless...who knows....  Thanks!
post #36 of 43
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Will head to the ski shop tomorrow, look at where the traditional (zero) mark puts me vs. some other TT's I've skied and go for it unless...who knows....  Thanks!

Went to the ski shop and those there that have skied the 'Sethed strongly recommended the "0" (traditional) mark or, at most +1.  I compared the location of the "0" mark with some other skis  that have a similar rocker design (i.e., not fully rockered), like the Rossi S7 and Armada JJ, and they actually have boot center marks that are even more forward that the 'Setheds.  So this further forward boot center mark appears to be the nature of this type of beast.  OTOH the Gotama's (both 08/09 and 09/10) have boot center marks that are definitely further back, but by about the same amount of additional contact length of the ski's tail (the Gotama's may be TT's but the tail turns up about 4-5cm further back than the 'Setheds and the other similar skis, not counting where the rocker begins).  All this told me that the 'Sethed's "traditional" mark seemed to make sense relative to other skis and am assuming that the extra length of the tail won't be noticeable unless I am doing a kick turn or herringboning.  Now I just need to ski 'em.
 

post #37 of 43
good job Ira, I am looking forward to some tasty Aspens with in about a month, Obseths and HB's,,,,,,
post #38 of 43
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good job Ira, I am looking forward to some tasty Aspens with in about a month, Obseths and HB's,,,,,,
Yea baby, now that's what I'm talking about - the snow's a flying.  Otherwise...yeah, good job for an OCD....  
post #39 of 43
Ira, 90% of us are OCD about our skis to some exent, enjoy the ride,,,
post #40 of 43
It might be worth checking out the mounting scale...there's a note in one of the newer Obsethed threads (http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164891&highlight=obsethed+scale) that the mounting scale may be back by 1cm from last year, though that's been disputed by another poster.

I'm 6'1" 210 and mounted my 189s (Purple - last year's) at Traditional and find myself wanting a bit more tip (or is that less tail)...
post #41 of 43
I'm happy to report that mounting the 'Setheds at the "Traditional" mark was perfect, a conclusion which came from a recent day of bottomless Steamboat pow skiing - check out Finndog's report @ http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/89614/steamboat-december-24th.  They felt perfectly weighted, but more importantly...oh what a ski! 

On a lightweight like me they are perfect soft to deep snow all mountain skis - enough power to satisfy, but no more such that they fight back.  I had 'em on everything from intermittently scary icy groomed/packed soft stuff to essentially bottomless and sometimes manky tree pow.  While they don't carve the harder stuff like my Gotama's...they also don't fight back if you don't properly engage and drive them - if anything they require a soft touch or they won't hook up (I also say who cares since I bought these for the pow and would have been willing to have them feel like lunch trays on groomers).  In the deep stuff they showed no desire to dive or get hung up even when the base was unconsolidated, while the tail rocker made bringing the ski around a no-brainer no matter what - I never felt the need to lift the tails (and never felt the unstable feeling that many report from a tail rockered ski).  They were also willing to accomodate any turn shape (even short quick ones in bumps) at nearly any speed (though I ain't a high speed bomber). 

Wow - it took one turn to master these and I was kissing them at the end of the day (not something I normally do)!
post #42 of 43
I want to add that we had some vaired conditons on certain runs where there were some young pine trees just under the surface as well as some exposed bramble of branches and such, where I had to be careful to make sure I floated them or in the case of at least one tree- double ejection......... (i digress) the Obseths did an excellent job of just planing over and not getting fouled up in it. They were really sweet.
post #43 of 43
ski-ra thanks for the exciting review - has me really anticipating getting on these things.  I think I am about to put Schizos on at Traditional, so I get up to the K2 Recommended if I want, and can still go 3cm behind Traditional, too.

I was looking for the TGR threads you said had info about people's experiences and opinions on this matter, but searching for obsethed turns up way too much junk to sort through, and adding "mount(ing)" only turns up two threads.  Can you share some links?  (epicski threads are easy to find)
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