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post #31 of 72
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Originally Posted by skier219 View Post
I bought a roll of sill insulation...
I used to do all that. Now I just strap the skis together with ski straps (nose to tail if I'm leaving bindings on them) and rubber band the brakes. If I'm feeling really frisky I'll toss an old cloth between the tips and the end of the bag. Packing my ski bag takes maybe five minutes. If I was bringing skis somewhere that absolutely could not be lost or damaged, I would ship them UPS in a well constructed box. UPS damages and loses things orders of magnitude less often than airlines.
post #32 of 72
I found the Tube so hard to pack that I finally quit using it completely. I don't know why it's designed to pack the skis with the topsheets facing inward when everything else in the industry interlocks the skis with the ski brakes and the bases touching.
post #33 of 72
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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post
It isn't running over them I am concerned about. that would just mean new skis paid for by Air F-heads!

It is that they throw your skis on the truck and onto the plane from about 20 feet away!

We were sitting on the plane with a full view of them loading gear from our window when we saw our skis fly by like Tyrone Shoelaces into a shuttle wagon!

I had this exact experience. The only thing that saved that baggage guy was I couldn't get off that plane! Otherwise...!!!

Get a case to protect your gear!
post #34 of 72
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Originally Posted by Koge View Post
Had a Line single padded ski bag and loved it. I Could pack extra clothes in it and it was easy to put on a roof rack of a rental SUV with just a couple of bungee cords with cord locks.
What kind of bungee cord locks do you use?

Thanks, John
post #35 of 72
Sport tube for me. Seeing skis tossed out of the cargo hold onto the runway in Bulgaria (spohia) and the normal practice of chucking 30 sets onto a wagon to wheel them into the cargo hall, means that any binding unpadded is going to get bent or hit.

With the sport tube I know my bindings are safe and the bases are behind a think layer of ABS. They can pile 30 pairs on top and mine wont take a beating. I pad the gaps with wax and tuning kit

Also it has wheels and good handles for carrying and the shoulder strap works well

I padlock mine. I've never been asked to open it for an inspection yet and it means they cant open it without me being there to repack it

Also many airlines are now checking to make sure no clothes or extras in the ski bags
post #36 of 72
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Originally Posted by madmole View Post
I padlock mine. I've never been asked to open it for an inspection yet and it means they cant open it without me being there to repack it
<loudspeaker guy>
Attention Travelers. The Thousands Standing Around would like to remind you not to lock your luggage, unless you use a lock they know how to open. These overpaid government thugs need free access to your luggage to pocket what they like. Thank you for your cooperation, citizen.
</loudspeaker guy>
post #37 of 72
Well, never been asked yet and many many folks lock their hold bags too (Especially if you travel through Brussels). As I fly for work nearly every week and have done for over 20 years with locked hold luggage I dont see it as an issue. I have been asked twice in that time to unlock it for inspection, both times at Frankfurt

Also note most airports now have luggage wrapping services which very effectively locks and seals it. Hold luggage is x-rayed normally not visually inspected

Customs and baggage handlers can easily open most normal padlocks anyway's
post #38 of 72

Homemade Tubes

As regards cheap, there was a thread on here a couple of years ago where some guy made his own ski tube out of white PVC with two screw in caps. Don't know if anyone can find this thread, or is still doing this, but I always thought it was a very creative idea.
post #39 of 72
It's plain and simple. If you pack skis or golf clubs in a soft bag, the airlines ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE for damage. If they get broke, you are SOL. Some airlines even make you sign a waiver at check in if you are not packed in hard sided cases.

If they are in a hard sided case and get damaged, you can file a claim for replacement. Soft case? Go pound salt.

For clubs and skis, I use hard cases and have for quite a few years.
post #40 of 72
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Originally Posted by madmole View Post
Well, never been asked yet and many many folks lock their hold bags too
Yes, but you see, Yurp doesn't have Thousands Standing Around.
post #41 of 72
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Originally Posted by Taylormatt View Post
If they are in a hard sided case and get damaged, you can file a claim for replacement. Soft case? Go pound salt.
You might need to reread your contract of carriage. Or pick airlines that don't suck. It would be nice if you'd stop spewing misinformation though.
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Originally Posted by the source
"Any of the following items may be checked in substitution of one
piece of the free baggage allowance for each fare-paying passenger at no charge on a one
item-for-one bag basis.
...
Snow ski equipment encased in a container or containers acceptable to Carrier including skis or snow board(s), ski boots, and ski poles encased in a container or containers acceptable to Carrier;

...

Carrier will compensate the passenger for reasonable, documented damages incurred as a result of the loss of, damage to, or delayed delivery of such baggage up to the limit of liability or declared valuation, whichever is higher, provided the passenger has exercised reasonable effort to minimize the amount of damage."


Or in other words, I don't sign waivers (so apparently my containers are acceptable to the carrier, gee, imagine that) and I don't care if my skis get a scratch on them because some TSA goon didn't zip the bag back up right...how would I distinguish that from regular wear and tear? If the airline drives over the bag and breaks skis, it a) doesn't matter that they weren't in a thin ABS tube and b) I'll politely ask them to reimburse me for some reasonable amount of cash...that doesn't mean I ask for MSRP and bitch when they won't pay it.

It really is not rocket surgery. You throw some skis in a bag, the airline throws them in a bin, throws them in a trailer, throws them in hold, and then rinse and repeat. Not really any more damage prone than me throwing them in a Thule box and driving around at mach schnell. Lighten up...they are just skis. I bend and break and coreshot them all the time...without any help from the airlines. I ripped a giant core digger in one today bushwhacking lowangle...I LOL'd.
post #42 of 72
If the airlines want to mess up your gear, they will do it no matter how it is packed.

I am thinking about Fed Ex Ground the next time. It costs the same and you don't have to carry it with you to the airport.
post #43 of 72
When you have a certian type of cargo, TSA will check it right away, and you can stand there and help them, or give them special instructions.
Otherwise they will just send it on the conveyer right out the back. Sometimes they do not check all luggage, i have not figured that out yet.
Try to fly out of a small airport as well, sometimes it's a bit more, but your cargo will be handled better at the start of the flight and you will know it will be packed right, cause they are not in a huge rush to move 100,000 people though their, maybe 3,000. Make sence? *shrugs*
Just my Airport experience here. The people loading and unloading honestly do not care about your stuff, the airport has insurance. Soft items or hard, they will throw them either way unless they have package handling stickers on them that will explode or break under certain forces.
post #44 of 72
Sorry, can't describe them, purchased them at a local hardware store. Will take pics of them tomorrow and hopefully I can figure out how to post them here.
post #45 of 72
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Originally Posted by skinnydog View Post
What kind of bungee cord locks do you use?

Thanks, John
Sorry, don't know how to describe them, will take pics of them on Monday, hopefully I can figure out how to post them.
post #46 of 72
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Originally Posted by SAskiBUM View Post
I am thinking about Fed Ex Ground the next time. It costs the same and you don't have to carry it with you to the airport.
I use Fedex a lot for my office but will never use them again for my recreational gear. They sent my skis to Utah (where they belonged) and then to Ohio (I guess UT and OH looked the same to the guy sorting out packages) and then back to Utah. While my skis were doing a USA tour by truck, I was renting gear!

BTW, I use a Sport Tube.
post #47 of 72
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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post
The Maplus Professional Ski Bag is huge and has rollers.gif[/IMG][/url]
That looks like a nice bag! Do you know the weight on that puppy?



I use padded double rollers and pack all my gear with the skis. Keeping it under 50lbs. can be a bit of a challenge.
post #48 of 72
Here is a trick for you guys.
Check them in as firearms.

They will receive a special handling when put into the plane.

One of the guys in the company I worked for got sick of his tools getting lost, so he started checking them as a firearm. haha. Never lost his tools again. They wont get thrown around either. I'm not sure of how much a stickler they are on you actually having a firearm in there, but I think they do not really care much cause you are paying them x amount, and I think most of the time they understand you want special care taken.
post #49 of 72
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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post
That looks like a nice bag! Do you know the weight on that puppy?

I use padded double rollers and pack all my gear with the skis. Keeping it under 50lbs. can be a bit of a challenge.
Not sure and will find out. I've been getting them drop shipped to keep a lid on dual shipping costs so I don't have one on hand.

We used one as a 'dolly' for hauling stuff in and out of SIA a couple years ago. It was impressive in capacity and durability.
post #50 of 72
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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post
Skitube. had the airlines bend a pair of my skis in a bag. doen with bags!!

2 issues

#1 Shorter skis can get hung up on the luggage converyor when they load your ski at the counter.

#2 they throw your skis like firewood in a pile onto the shuttle trucks to and from the plane.

Get a double tube. You can take 2 pair & it is considered 1 bag.

2 years ago at Denver we watched out the window waiting to board and saw a luggage hauler dragging a sparking bag across the tarmack. We were looking at this and saying some poor guy's skis are getting fried! Turns out when we got home it's was my friends. Left wheel was completely desentigrated, the bottom section of the ABS box was gone, and inside most of one ski was gone. Of course everything was neatly wrapped up in the famous airlines plastic bagging and tape, with the infamous note, DAMAGED!

The ski box had it's day, exspecially before TSA, but with today's padded bags they are the only way to go. Neither is going to survive the ultimate tarmack dragger!
post #51 of 72
I want a ski bag out of motorcycle leather.

If I was better at leather work I'd make one this week.
post #52 of 72
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Originally Posted by comprex View Post
I want a ski bag out of motorcycle leather.

If I was better at leather work I'd make one this week.
And then you could add spikes for extra protection.
post #53 of 72
post #54 of 72
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
You might need to reread your contract of carriage. Or pick airlines that don't suck. It would be nice if you'd stop spewing misinformation though.


Or in other words, I don't sign waivers (so apparently my containers are acceptable to the carrier, gee, imagine that) and I don't care if my skis get a scratch on them because some TSA goon didn't zip the bag back up right...how would I distinguish that from regular wear and tear? If the airline drives over the bag and breaks skis, it a) doesn't matter that they weren't in a thin ABS tube and b) I'll politely ask them to reimburse me for some reasonable amount of cash...that doesn't mean I ask for MSRP and bitch when they won't pay it.

It really is not rocket surgery. You throw some skis in a bag, the airline throws them in a bin, throws them in a trailer, throws them in hold, and then rinse and repeat. Not really any more damage prone than me throwing them in a Thule box and driving around at mach schnell. Lighten up...they are just skis. I bend and break and coreshot them all the time...without any help from the airlines. I ripped a giant core digger in one today bushwhacking lowangle...I LOL'd.
Wow, you're still a dick. Imagine that?
post #55 of 72
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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post
That looks like a nice bag! Do you know the weight on that puppy?

I use padded double rollers and pack all my gear with the skis. Keeping it under 50lbs. can be a bit of a challenge.
Timing is everything. From RacerRick at Vegas:

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The bag is around 80" x 12" x 12" and weighs around 8 lbs. It fits 2 pairs alpine or 4 pairs xc skis comfortably. I carried two stands (Terminator) and a large piece of plywood in the bag to the booth this morning - in total this bag weighed 48 lbs.
I'll be there tomorrow and double check if you want.
post #56 of 72
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Originally Posted by skinnydog View Post
What kind of bungee cord locks do you use?

Thanks, John
On Google, type in: Erickson 51501 adjustable bungee. 1st link up is drillspot. This looks exactly like the on I have.

As mentioned earlier, purchased mine thru a local hardware store. I was able to just purchase the hooks. So my bungee has the fixed hooks on one end and these adjustable on the other. Saved me a few dollars this way.
post #57 of 72
Tube.

A bunch of years ago, I watched a "luggage guy" spiking ski bags onto the chute in SLC, grumbling something about "rich skiers".
post #58 of 72
Thread Starter 
Wow, thanks to all. I took yesterday off to take my daughter skiing, and now here are over 50 responses! Cogent points were made for both bags and tubes, which makes this either a tough decision or a random one (flip a coin).

Quick follow-up question: I have three skiers in my family. Although this Spring only two of us at a time will be going on an air-travel ski trip, in future years all three of us likely will go together. Is there a bag or tube that could hold three pairs of skis and poles? (One set will be a kid's size for the next 6-10 years, depending on how fast my daughter grows).

Thanks again.
post #59 of 72
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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post
Timing is everything. From RacerRick at Vegas:



I'll be there tomorrow and double check if you want.
No, that's close enough. 8 lbs. is good. My PM Gear bag is 14 and will probably need replacement in the next year or so.
post #60 of 72
Id like to resurrect an old thread if possible. If all goes well, I will be flying at least twice this year. I am going to try shipping skis/luggage forwarding to see if its worth the cost, as I will be with kids at least one of the trips. 

So when shipping skis, must one use a sport tube? Dont know if anyone has ever shipped a padded bag before. If you have to box a padded bag, then the effort could probably be better channeled into taking the skis with you. 

And on a related note, I just watched the video to sport tube packing. Is it me or the packing seems a bit complicated?  Thus is sporttube the only hard box out there?

Thanks in advance all.
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