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post #31 of 35
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Some of us suspect that reason so many Eastern examiners have left in the past year or so has to do with the way the Executive Director was removed a couple of years ago. At least 3 other examiners left at about that time also, and I know at least one of them was upset about the change of administration.
There was definitely disgust at what happened from what I've heard. I believe that the feeling was that change wasn't welcomed, and the "old boy" network (note it involves girls) didn't like giving up control. Reasons were fabricated for the removal of the director.
Apparently the east is a rat's nest of intrigue that has nothing to do with what supposed to be happening...
post #32 of 35
Aside from the political intrigue, which in one form or another has existed since the first days of EPSIA and may simply be part of the fabric of life here in the Northeast, there is also a legendary mystique associated with Cannon, Stowe and Whiteface. The big, steep, icy, windy, severe weather, killer mogul image that all the grooming and snowmaking in the world cannot neutralize seems to overcome otherwise civilized examiners. There is an implicit obligation, as if to properly honor the memory of those who came before, to turn exams at those areas into tests of survival and endurance.
post #33 of 35
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Originally posted by David7:
...there is also a legendary mystique associated with Cannon, Stowe and Whiteface. The big, steep, icy, windy, severe weather, killer mogul image that all the grooming and snowmaking in the world cannot neutralize seems to overcome otherwise civilized examiners. There is an implicit obligation, as if to properly honor the memory of those who came before, to turn exams at those areas into tests of survival and endurance.
That wasn't my experience at Whiteface last year. The only bumps we skied were the competition bumps, which were rock hard but well spaced. We only skied Cloudspin once or twice in 2 days, and we didn't do any tasks there. The hardest task we did was "hop to shape" turns, which are not very strenuous. And there was no age discrimination either. In my group, 3 guys in their 50's passed (including me), and the 2 old guys who failed clearly didn't meet the standard.
post #34 of 35
I made my first attempt at the L3 skiing exam at Cannon (didn't pass) in '95 and then passed at Stowe a month later. In neither case was I subjected to anything like what has been described here. At Cannon, we had perfect conditions, although wickedly cold (-20 F). We received 40" of snow Saturday night for a Monday-Tuesday exam. At Stowe, it was warm with big bumps.

I don't know, maybe things got worse over the past 7 years, but I haven't heard anything like that from the folks we send.
post #35 of 35
Maybe my sarcasm was too subtle. The fact is, a level III exam SHOULD be a test of advanced skills. And if it happens to be held at Cannon or Stowe, or wherever, the examiners should be expected to take advantage of the best available advanced terrain. Level III means "expert" and it should be the highest proficiency level attainable. Claims of age discrimination really cheapen and trivialize the process.

At Cannon two seasons ago the exam was strenuous, as it should be, but not impossible. Eight or nine inches of new snow each of the two days added to the challenge, but a Level III instructor ought to be capable of handling a variety of conditions and of skiing all of the open terrain at any area. My observation of the three examiners that I skied with was that they were thoroughly professional. I do think that they took the heavy loose snow into consideration.

There were three of us over 50 in my group. The one of us who passed was 58. He was awesome. The two of us who didn't pass missed because of technical and preparation issues, not age issues. Growing older doesn't give anybody the right or the excuse to get out of shape or overweight. If anything, the experience that comes with age should help us do the hop turns with a lot more finesse and a lot less exertion.
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