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post #61 of 76
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Originally Posted by skiking4 View Post
I believe Pipeline is at least 45 degrees, and is supposedly 50+.
umm and you ve skied it before right?

yeah I have its looks alot harder and gnarly than it really it is. The top is still on a hanging snow field but its not steep.

Great Scott, High Rustler, nirvana, eddies, and various other inbounds runs are all steeper.

I would admit you have better chance of dieing on pipeline, but once your in the chute its a wide open easy run.

andrew mclean rates it at a S4 + which is for sure fall or die terrain untill you get into the chute. Its not 45 degrees though no way no how.

S0 ..... Flat terrain. A golf course.
S1 ..... Low angle. Possibly poling in places.
S1+ ... Beginning terrain at a ski area. Safe run-outs.
S2 ......25° slopes. “Intermediate” terrain at a ski area.
S2+ ... Slopes at or near 25° with some terrain features.
S3- .... Slopes up to 30°.
S3 ..... Slopes up to 35°. “Expert” runs at ski areas.
S3+ ... Slopes at or near 35° with terrain features that require maneuvering around.
S4- .... Slopes 35–45° with safe run-outs and little to no dangerous terrain features.
S4 ..... Slopes 35–45° with dangerous fall potential and a few terrain obstacles.
S4+.... Slopes just under 45° that are continuously steep, have serious fall consequences and multiple terrain obstacles.
S5- ... Slopes that are continuously at or near 45° or slightly over.
S5 .... Slopes between 45–55°. You’d be lucky to live through a fall.
S5+ .. Slopes at or around 55°. Falling est verboten.
S6- ... Short sections that are steeper than 55°. Most of the run is continuously above 50°.
S6 .... Slopes continuously steeper than 55°. Painful death from falling highly likely.
S6+ .. 55°ish slopes with major obstacles – cliffs, trees, crevasses.
S7 .... 60° slopes. Just plain ol’ steep as hell.
S7+ .. 60° slopes with nasty obstacles. A quick and certain death if you fall.
S8 .... The future.

I have never done anything from his book over S5 but I will admit outside of ski area boundraies I am wimp. I know skifishbum has done those andrew list in his book and more.
post #62 of 76
All these topo maps and now S's to conjure. A throw down over which rock is better? Dark vibe.

Discussing a taste of vertical challenge at Breck albeit for a few turns s/b lauded along with the sharing of some other goods with the clan. While Breck is not my or obviously other’s first choice; we can all leverage the value found here when there.

Certainly anyone who has skied LCC knows the joy. Share it by promoting good skiing found anywhere and gain a greater voice. Perhaps a 3 turn at Breck or wherever would morph into a quest for more…perhaps a visit to Alta along with enlisting an instructor.
post #63 of 76
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Originally Posted by DonDenver View Post
All these topo maps and now S's to conjure. A throw down over which rock is better? Dark vibe.

Discussing a taste of vertical challenge at Breck albeit for a few turns s/b lauded along with the sharing of some other goods with the clan. While Breck is not my or obviously other’s first choice; we can all leverage the value found here when there.

Certainly anyone who has skied LCC knows the joy. Share it by promoting good skiing found anywhere and gain a greater voice. Perhaps a 3 turn at Breck or wherever would morph into a quest for more…perhaps a visit to Alta along with enlisting an instructor.
notice I said that video breck look cool.

and I dehyping the myth that pipeline is like the gnarliest sidecountry run ever. Its isnt its not even close to the top in utah let alone the country world.

Its fun but not nearly as fun as the wide open of long john silvers
post #64 of 76
That video was the flattest steeps I've ever seen
post #65 of 76
Just measured Pipeline via Google Earth.

449 vertical over 570 length = 38.23*.

Short and gnarly, I only measured the inside of the chute and not the entrance to get to the couloir. Definitely has steeper and less steeper sections so this is only a broad average degrees. And as always, Google Earth is FAR from accurate.
post #66 of 76
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Originally Posted by ut_hucker View Post
I heard some locals at a bar talking about the expansion. They said the stuff on peak 6 is some of the best expert skiing in Colorado. Bold words, but it will change the way people think of Breck.
The Imperial Chair changed Breck, but it still has to change the way most people think of Breck, as witnessed by this (and other) threads. There's still plenty of folk who haven't skied the new terrain, and will not ski the new terrain, who will continue to think that the be all and end all of steep skiing in Summit County is A-Basin. That's fine, it will leave more of the terrain to the rest of us.

Mike
post #67 of 76
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Originally Posted by Reisen View Post
Just got back from Summit County. Skied Vail Sunday, and Breck the rest of the time.


Two core shots later, I realized just how much the combination of less snowfall this year (versus Vail), pretty much everything around Imperial Bowl being windblown, and way too much skier traffic can mean Breck gets scraped off very quickly.
Yep, Breck has rocks. That's why you have to learn to read terrain at Breck; to spot the spots where there are likely to be rocks because of terrain or because of skier traffic. Makes you a better skier, in my opinion. And also suggests that you ski where there is snow!

Mike
post #68 of 76
If you like a mountain a lot, try not to advertise it. The majority of skiers on this forum will be taking away your pow!
post #69 of 76
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Originally Posted by skiking4 View Post
If you like a mountain a lot, try not to advertise it. The majority of skiers on this forum will be taking away your pow!
there is only powder at alta. nowhere else. really its true.
post #70 of 76
IMO, knowing HOW and WHERE to ski Breck is crucial to having an enjoyable time. Breck has been my "home" mountain for 12 years(500+ days), so I'd like to think I know my way around.
post #71 of 76
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Originally Posted by cmsummit View Post
IMO, knowing HOW and WHERE to ski Breck is crucial to having an enjoyable time. Breck has been my "home" mountain for 12 years(500+ days), so I'd like to think I know my way around.
This is a fact at every ski area isn't it? I think it really comes right down to what you want to get out of a ski area. What's your game? Do you want to challenge yourself today or just cruise around working on technique on the groomers? Conditions also play into the game. Is it a powder day or not? Is it the first day of the vacation or not?

So many different factors come into play everytime you ski and at every different ski area. What you take home with you depends on personal likes and attitude.
post #72 of 76
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Originally Posted by Lars View Post
This is a fact at every ski area isn't it?
I think Breck moreso than at least some mountains. Eg. A-Basin is so small it's pretty hard to miss the good stuff. Breck is so big and much of it is very flat. If you're just there for a day and don't have a plan you could easily follow the crowd and miss most all the interesting terrain. Because of what I know about Breck, except for A-Basin and Beaver Creek, I have no interest in going to another mountain unless I'm going to ski with a local or a guide.
post #73 of 76
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Originally Posted by breckview View Post
I think Breck moreso than at least some mountains. Eg. A-Basin is so small it's pretty hard to miss the good stuff. Breck is so big and much of it is very flat. If you're just there for a day and don't have a plan you could easily follow the crowd and miss most all the interesting terrain. Because of what I know about Breck, except for A-Basin and Beaver Creek, I have no interest in going to another mountain unless I'm going to ski with a local or a guide.
My thoughts exactly breckview. I've been to Breck so many times, the more I ski it the better it gets for me. I know where all the things are that interests me, my favorite runs, and how to get there fast. What more do you want?
post #74 of 76
calling a resort flat seems to be the vernacular used most commonly by folks who don't frequent said "flat" resort.

Northstar in Tahoe is commonly referred to as "Flatstar", yet there are a number of other resorts in the same area that have much flatter terrain.

In NS's case I think it stems from the fact that the frontside of the mountain is all intermediate and beginner and the "Village Run" is perhaps one of the flatest runs in all of Tahoe. The thing of it is, if you know where to go NS can provide some long and adequately steep pitches (although nothing super gnarly).

Breck is quite similar. All of the terrain you see from the ground and that's easily accessible by day-trippers is green and blue. You have to really work and take a number of lifts to get to the steeper stuff.

I'd say as long as you stick to the T-Bar and Imperial Lift, you'll have plenty to keep you occupied and there's also some fairly steep tree lines over on Peak 10, I believe (far looker's left of the mountain). I personally enjoy Breck on a day after pow day. They get some seriously sweet wind buff up above the T-Bar that is fun as fiznuck to rip through.
post #75 of 76
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
Breck is quite similar. All of the terrain you see from the ground and that's easily accessible by day-trippers is green and blue. You have to really work and take a number of lifts to get to the steeper stuff.
Thats not exactly true. I am pretty sure I could get from any point on the mountain to any other point in three chairs or less with he exception being from the bottom of peak 9 to the top of imperial. I really think that people become confused by the number of trails or think that the easiest way transfer signs are the only way or quickest way when in fact they are only the least difficult. I personally find it very easy to get around there.

I also totally agree with breckview I know Breck so well that I find it hard to go other places where I am just going to wonder aimlessly around without knowing what is really good or not. All to often I have spent 20 mins traversing across a resort only to get to the run I am trying to reach and be disappointed by it.
post #76 of 76
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Originally Posted by lonewolf210 View Post
I am pretty sure I could get from any point on the mountain to any other point in three chairs or less with he exception being from the bottom of peak 9 to the top of imperial.
Right on ! From the VERY bottom (at the Maggie building) you would need at least 4 rides to get to the top of Imperial. (6 pack / Superconnect / t-bar or 6 chair / then Imperial. No matter where you start on the base of Peak 9 you need 3 (plus a midstation jump on at Superconnect) rides to get to the top of Imperial unless you walk up to the Superconnect lift.

BUT

You can access a ton of the lower part of Peak 7 bowls and all of the front bowls with 2 lift rides from the base of Peak 8. Same with Peak 10 if you start on Peak 9.

One lift steep access.....by all means. The north side of Peak 9 and south side of peak 8 are all available with one lift ride from the base of each peak.

Breck is way easy to get around, as long as you know the layout.
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