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post #31 of 36
Originally posted by kieli:
hahaha... you're gonna pay me 2 bucks for a hug? do I look that cheap? DAMN!
In the words of Winston Churchill "We've already established what sort of woman you are, now we're just arguing over the price"
(And if you don't know the whole story, I'll tell it at the Academy or Gathering)

post #32 of 36
I feel like a bit of a cheap schmuck. We only started skiing last year and took some lessons -- never even thought about tipping the instructors. And since my wife worked as a waitress in her younger days, she's a generous tipper. We simply assumed instructors were professionals who were paid reasonably well by the resorts and that tipping was not appropriate.
post #33 of 36
Hi New Skier -

If you scroll back and read my post, you'll see that I noted that I don't think it OCCURS to MOST people to tip ski instructors. And, I agree with you, it's perfectly natural that to think that since you pay a fair sum for the lesson - the ski instructor is getting 30-50%, but that is not the case.

I think I speak for the pack when I say - We care more about you coming to our mountains to ski. We want to help you fall in love with or improve your skiing and so we give lessons. We know it's expensive (why do you think we're teaching!! haha).

Also, please note - this thread was started by a skier who takes lessons and a lot of instructors have chimed in along the way. PLEASE!!!! don't read this with the assumption that we're a bunch of instructors trying to educate skiers on TIPPING. UGH. :

Finally - to those of you who leave a small tip to send a message... here's somthing to ponder: In my younger days I worked for tips (waitressing/bartending) and it's so common that people are poor tippers that you see a small tip, it's TOO easy to write it off as "cheap" and move on. TO say it another way - human tendancy is to blame the other person, not ourselves. It's probably rare that your server pauses and thinks "wow that person was not happy with my service - how can I improve?". AND, speaking of "how to improve" - your server doesn't know what they did wrong, because no one tells them. So how are they supposed to improve?? Give direct feedback to the server or manager... it will improve the situation!! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

hey... have a Happy Thanksgiving!
post #34 of 36
I've only had one real lesson session my whole life, and that was at Academy last year. (I know, I know...why'd ya wait so long!?)

Even with some extremely generous help, the trip was a struggle to fund, but I took extra cash for emergencies...a nice meal, souvenirs, GOGGLES, etc. :

Well, after day one, I realized that I would have to forgo the nice meals and souvenirs..........that money was earmarked for the tip. It was not nearly what I wanted to give, but when I gave it I said, "It's not a measure of Your Worth, it's a measure of Mine."

I should have doubled it at least. Sometimes, you just don't HAVE enough.

Thanks, Weems. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #35 of 36
If a waiter or waitress grumbles, has a poor attitude, ignores your calls for service, waits on other later arrivals first (in a busy situation where things are confusing, I don't factor it in) .... If they are not smart enough or, are so arrogant that they can't connect A ... with B ... and I actuall tried that a few months ago and it resulted in an altercation as we tried to exit. All of the above factors cited above (folks at two other tables actually tried to help get the guys attention ... we were there well before and they had finished with their meal).

Call it to managements attention? They are blind to the employees behavior or, perhaps they are the cause of it. I am not their paid consultant, nor, do I feel the need to play junior psychologist ..... I just want my eggs and toast.

You ask the question (retention ... other thread), but when you don't get the answer that management wants you just rephrase the question and/or, ignore the feedback.

Avaition Examiner ... "What's the drill for night operations, single engine, complete loss of power?

Me ... Check the mag positions and switch, fuel, electrical busses etc.

Examiner .... "Wrong! At 1000 feet AGL (above the ground), turn your landing light ON! If you don't like what you see, turn it OFF!"

[ November 25, 2003, 06:23 AM: Message edited by: yuki ]
post #36 of 36
This thread has been flogged aplenty, but I can't resist tossing in my two cents (a little cumshaw, if you will). Tipping is entirely at the discretion of the guest, of course, but this IS a service business and it is customary to tip those who provide a personal service. You are not only expected to tip waiters and bellhops, but barbers, valets, and even the guy who hands you back your keys at the carwash. So why not your ski instructor? In my experience, however, groups rarely tip, but privates often do. Speaking only for myself, it isn't the amount that matters, it's the effort and sincerity involved in saying thanks with a gratuity. If someday everyone in one of my eight-student groups were to each give me just one dollar at the end of the lesson, I'd probably blush from the flattery. In the meantime, though, my resort encourages me to give each of THEM a five dollar discount coupon for their next lesson. A kind of reverse tip, or a little "lagniappe," as they say in New Orleans.
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