FWIW, 6'1" 195lbs here, and I thought the 4x4 was perfect in 178cm. It does want to carve almost exclusively as Michael noted -- not real happy skidding.
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Dynastar Contact 4X4 revisited, the 172cm size on ice. - Page 2post #31 of 414/1/09 at 9:40am
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I owned the '07 Contact 11 (now the Contact 10) in a 178cm and demoed the 178cm 4x4. I would prefer the 178cm size if I lived west of Denver and only skied bigger mountains.
However, I've been perfectly happy on the 172cm 4x4 at Alta & Jackson Hole for firm snow days. I've also used the 172cm Contact 11 at Kirkwood and Mt Rose and was pleased with the stability and versatility of the ski in this size.
I tend to ski at moderate speeds in bumps and steeper trails if the conditions are firm. I really don't need the 178cm size for how I use the ski.
Michaelpost #33 of 414/1/09 at 11:32amQuote:
Ah, but! Key question: what are you bringing to Utah GTG next year?post #34 of 414/1/09 at 11:38amThread Starterpost #35 of 414/2/09 at 6:28am
Hi Michael, Thanks for your advice. I think that I am definitely going to go with the 4x4. Now I just have to hunt a pair down in 172 length for a good price. I believe it comes with the Look PX14 Fluid bindings but I'm not sure whether I want to use those or the Look P10s I have on my CO7s because I love the whole concept of the pivot binding. It's too bad that Dynastar has discontinued them because I really feel like they have a superior design.post #36 of 414/2/09 at 6:57amThread StarterQuote:Originally Posted by JRuth725
Hi Michael, Thanks for your advice. I think that I am definitely going to go with the 4x4. Now I just have to hunt a pair down in 172 length for a good price. I believe it comes with the Look PX14 Fluid bindings but I'm not sure whether I want to use those or the Look P10s I have on my CO7s because I love the whole concept of the pivot binding. It's too bad that Dynastar has discontinued them because I really feel like they have a superior design.
I also like the older pivots, but the PX14 have worked perfectly for me. It's the only binding that will work with the plate system on the Contact series.
MBpost #37 of 411/24/11 at 7:07pm
Instructive review - thanks. As I'm about to change my aging Volkl P50 Motion skis (purchased in 2003), I'm obviously looking for sound advice here and there - technology has evolved quite a bit since... A salesperson at the ski store has praised the Dynastars Contact 4x4 and your review points in the same direction.
In my quest for the right ski, I'm also trying out demos. A few weeks ago, I tried a pair of Salomon Daytona 24h, but wasn't really thrilled - skis were ok, but lacked character somehow. Last weekend I tried the Nordicas Dobermann Spitfire Pro EDT. Loved them. Quick, snappy, yet supple in the transitions from turn to turn. Had a great time with them. These were 170 cm, but I think I would have preferred a bit longer - 175-ish.
Judging from your specs in that post, you've tried a lot of skis. I was wondering if you've tried the Nordicas and, if so, how they compare to the Dynastars. Maybe you have other recommendations.
My specs :
6'1,5" tall, weight: 205 lbs
I ski eastern ski resorts, essentially on-piste.
Skiing style: aggressive carver.
Current skis: Volkl P-50 Motion, sidecut: 103-63-92, radius: 18,5 m, length: 178 cm
Looking for tighter radius skis and a wider waist (63 was quite narrow).
Thanks for your opinion.post #38 of 411/24/11 at 8:09pmpost #39 of 411/25/11 at 9:52ampost #40 of 411/25/11 at 5:53pm
^^^^ I assume you're talking about a 4x4, yes? YOu don't share your height/weight/skill, but here's my take: I'm 175, level 8 eastern skier. I just bought the 4x4 in 172, and I'm thinking they could suit anyone up to 200 pounds easily. I suppose if you are really strong or want to run only really long GS turns, one could step up in length -- but these are substantial skis. They really want to be skied; you can't just noodle around on them. I find them great: able to make long or short turns, with solid edge grip, and plenty of stability. But they definitely ski "big".post #41 of 411/26/11 at 3:50am
I had skied both the 178 and 172 before settling on the 172. I'm 5'10 and 180 the 178 felt absolutely unflappable at speed over any surface condition, but was downright daunting to handle (for me).
The 172 is a great ski, and handles a wide range of terrain and conditions-but modern carving skills are a real plus in making this ski work. his has been my 80% time ski for 1.5 seasons (I use it to Patrol as well as free ski, mostly east with a little west).
I find they respond to a feathered soft edge as well as a high-angle edged turn.
The Tails are really, really stiff, load up with rebound energy and will hold on any steep or icy slope. Downside is, they are not very 'playful' or easy to drift in and out of turns...they'll do it,but the skier has to be on top of them or the tails will grab and buck you.
I love them, they are a nice combination of a power and finesse ski, good energy and fun (in a focused, high energy skiing kind of way) in a lot of conditions.
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