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How do you start?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
This sort of ties in with the thread “Where does it all Begin???”

I'm curious, how do you start your run? Do you start with your skis across the hill (traverse), or do you start with your skis in the fall line? I start my run in the fall line. This way I have ½ a turn completed, otherwise I must guide my skis into a turn. I think the most difficult part of the “turn” is the initiation. Most people can complete a turn, whether it is carved or skidded, but they have a tough time starting the skis down the hill. This is where we see abstems, upperbody rotation, and other contortions to start the turn.

I keep seeing people talk about physics. I am basically a lazy person, most folks are, and like to have g (gravity, not Todd) help me. Think of yourself trying to move a couch across a carpeted floor. It takes a fair amount of force to get the couch moving, but after the initial movement it gets easier to keep it moving. It is this same principle that I use at the start of each run. Let g do the initial effort.

post #2 of 13
Humm, i just start straight down, how else am i gunna get to warp speed.
post #3 of 13
I start goin strait down to gain speed, if it's really steep then I just drop in.
post #4 of 13
a lot like THIS

after deciding...

"hmmm, lemmee see here..."

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ October 25, 2001 03:17 PM: Message edited 1 time, by ryan ]</font>
post #5 of 13
I usually release the edges and let gravity do the work.

Ryan, When did you get new ski pants?
post #6 of 13
Jim O'D,
it's hard to turn when you're barely moving. Definately, down first. yes, definately....

For those taking exams..... learn from Jim... yes, definately down first....

post #7 of 13

soon as I got to the bottom.
post #8 of 13
When I was being prepped for a PSIA exam, the coordinator asked this same question.

Most examiners start from the fall line... you are better starting turns from a balanced stance.

An International Coach told me at a USSA clinic that if you are out of balance, get into the fall line. You can't turn if you are not in balance.

One of my favorite ski shirts I wear says... "If you think you are going to fast..Accelerate".

A safety thought is if you start in the fall line, you are already going with traffic (is there such a thing?) before you turn. Less chance of getting hit.
post #9 of 13
As you note, Jim, the most difficult part of a turn to get right is the turn entry. If you start a turn correctly, you're most likely to finish it well. That's why I almost always enter a slope with a turn. If I can get that part right, I'll be OK. And there's nothing wrong with developing a skill to ski slowly. You can't really be in balance on your skis unless you can turn them at slow speeds.
post #10 of 13
I started my best run like this.

I was last one in the gondola. We were third loaded that morning. By the top I was all buttoned up, goggles down, all velcro secured, pole straps on. I was the first out of the gondola, grabbed my skis before the guy had a chance to unload them for me. I hustled, the best I could do in ski boots, down the ramp as I seperated my skis-one in each hand. I dodged between two people and threw my skis out in front of me. As the skis were gliding through the snow I did a double pole plant and jumped in, both feet at the same time. Without a pause, I pushed down my heels the bindings clicked in. I was off, far ahead of everyone else that loaded before me.
-My first powder day.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ October 25, 2001 05:31 PM: Message edited 2 times, by zeek ]</font>
post #11 of 13
Kneale-You're right... a good skier can show their skill even at slow speed.

A perfect example of this is asking someone who skiis on one ski on an intermediate-expert slope to do the same thing on the beginners hill at a crawl. The committment to the inside of the turn over your ski leg is a real mind trick.

When I was talking to some examiners a week after a Level 3 (not me)exam, they commented they do exams on the steeps rather than the beginner's hill because it is embarassing to tell an instructor they failed on the beginners hill. If the instructor has the right skills, the performance should be the same regardless of the slope.

Balance is what it always goes back to. So, as you say, "there's nothing wrong with developing a skill to ski slowly", you're right.
post #12 of 13
Yes I agree down the hill get some momentum and then skiing like riding a bike becomes much easier. No doubt. I feel this is exactly what most skiers that now enough to be dangerous do. They get going fast and let the skis do the rest.

anybody want to try "The hardest demo in the entire world" Only the best skiers can make an open trak paralell turn on almost flat terrain at walking speed. NO stems or steps or anything Totaly paralell. This is the ultimate test. If all the skills are present you will know it.

Try it When we get some snow
post #13 of 13
I agree with Kneale if it is a drop in [a quick turn or a trverse to a pot for the first turn] on a steep slope. Usually I decide where the best place is to make my first turn, ski to it and turn, and the rest takes care of itself. Not all the time, but usually.
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