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Looking at the Volkl AC30's... debating over size. Advice required!

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hi guys. This is my first post so be gentle with me, and if you can't be gentle, at least have the courtesy to use some lube.

ANyway some history about me... i'm a Brit, been going skiing since I was 7, ranging from 3 times a year to once every 3 years depending on availability. However I now live in Switzerland (fap fap fap) and so find myself with access to slopes. Lots of slopes.

I would class myself as a lower grade advanced skiier... I generally stick to piste but can handle all but the toughest black runs at good speed with decent technique, and have no qualms about pushing the limits of my speed. As a result, I am looking at a ski that can deliver, and from all the research i've done on this forum and no others, the AC30 is a winner in many respects.

So... now onto size. At the moment I have some older carver 170's, and I think they are a bit limiting in terms of speed, and the fact that at max speeds chatter is apparent... they just don't feel that stable.

I am 68KG, 5ft 10", and am looking at the 184cm's. Do you think that this length would be suitable for a guy my size for the use that I laid out earlier in my post?

Thanks in advance, and happy skiing.
post #2 of 13
I would demo some 177's. On piste, it may be more about the size of the turns that you want to make.
post #3 of 13
I am 70KG and 5'9"-10" and found 163s a bit dull. I currently ski the TigerShark 12ft when I'm not on one of my 7 pairs of racers, and those are 175cm. Very enjoyable ski, and going by the similarities of the two, you might want to try the AC30 in a 177 or 170. You may want to give the TigerShark 12ft in 175 a shot too.
post #4 of 13

Size

Granted I've skied my new AC30's only once, but you are looking at way too long a ski. 68 kg is about 150 lbs. With your ability and height a 170 cm ski at most would be best. I am an advanced skied, 5'-9" 155 lbs and have a 170. I felt no chatter at all.
post #5 of 13
AC is Volkl's all-condition ski. It is not designed for high speeds. Getting it in too long a length will not make it more stable. If you are sticking to on-piste, you should get a race ski or maybe a tigre shark or something of that nature.
post #6 of 13
note to the OP: the Tigershark 12ft is more of an all mountain ski than the AC30, and handles better at speed.
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
Guys thanks for the suggestion but the Tigersharks are almost twice the price... definately NOT a consideration if i'm to be paying £650+. Besides, i can't even find anywhere in the UKL with them in-stock, and Ebay doesn't even have them either!

Are there any other skis you reccommend then that perform in the areas i'm looking at?
post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
Ok guys I had 2 days of skiing at flumserberg in Switzerland and noticed two apparent things:
  • My Atomic boots are too small (my toe really hits the end), caused me two days of agony, and are going back for a refund. The fitting shop failed, and they aren't good enough to keep. I'd rather spend a little extra and get it right.
  • A good ski (I trialled a Stöckli today) makes a huge difference over what I thought were decent skis. Speed and grip were apparent with the skis, I was impressed.

So now I need a new pair of skis AND boots, both of which are catered for by a local sports/fitting shop. Equipment I will be looking at next week are as follows:

Skis:

Völkl AC 3 Motion inkl. 3Motion 11.0 - http://www.athleticum.ch/shop/produc...101-191-106094

Völkl Tiger Ten inkl. 3Motion 11.0 - http://www.athleticum.ch/shop/produc...101-191-106093

Opinions on these? I can't find too much info on the web but the stuff I have seen seem favourable. These will be my skis for the next couple of seasons, and just need to be a good balance of speed and control in most conditions I ski in (piste/ice/bit of powder).

Boots:

Salomon Impact 10 - Flex 110 - http://74.125.43.100/translate_c?hl=...hElPrV1w2u-Z-A

Atomic Hawx 100 - Flex 100 - http://74.125.43.100/translate_c?hl=...vZcxhxrUgHnzqA

Lowa C Plus 4 - Flex 90 - http://74.125.43.101/translate_c?hl=...bl5DYAdH9WbC8A

I'm thinking the Salomons will be the winners here as by all reports they fit wider feet very well and users report few, if any, pressure points. Plus the greater flex should help with transferring energy for my turns.

Thanks for the guidance folks...
post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 
Ok guys I had 2 days of skiing at flumserberg in Switzerland and noticed two apparent things:
  • My Atomic boots are too small (my toe really hits the end), caused me two days of agony, and are going back for a refund. The fitting shop failed, and they aren't good enough to keep. I'd rather spend a little extra and get it right.
  • A good ski (I trialled a Stöckli today) makes a huge difference over what I thought were decent skis. Speed and grip were apparent with the skis, I was impressed.

So now I need a new pair of skis AND boots, both of which are catered for by a local sports/fitting shop. Equipment I will be looking at next week are as follows:

Skis:

Völkl AC 3 Motion inkl. 3Motion 11.0 - http://www.athleticum.ch/shop/produc...101-191-106094

Völkl Tiger Ten inkl. 3Motion 11.0 - http://www.athleticum.ch/shop/produc...101-191-106093

Opinions on these? I can't find too much info on the web but the stuff I have seen seem favourable. These will be my skis for the next couple of seasons, and just need to be a good balance of speed and control in most conditions I ski in (piste/ice/bit of powder).

Boots:

Salomon Impact 10 - Flex 110 - http://74.125.43.100/translate_c?hl=...hElPrV1w2u-Z-A

Atomic Hawx 100 - Flex 100 - http://74.125.43.100/translate_c?hl=...vZcxhxrUgHnzqA

Lowa C Plus 4 - Flex 90 - http://74.125.43.101/translate_c?hl=...bl5DYAdH9WbC8A

I'm thinking the Salomons will be the winners here as by all reports they fit wider feet very well and users report few, if any, pressure points. Plus the greater flex should help with transferring energy for my turns.

Thanks for the guidance folks...
post #10 of 13
just an fyi, I have the AC 3 Motion and the Atomic Hawx 90 and am very happy with both.

I also recently demoed the AC Titanium and it was awesome.
post #11 of 13
Poorpup, you demoed the Stockli Stormrider XL, so why are you still looking at the Volkl AC3 / AC30 (you seem to be impressed with the XL)? Given your weight, look at the Stockli Stormrider XL @ 170cm. FWIW, I ditched my Volkl AC3's 3 years ago for the Stomrider XL and have not looked back (and on the other days I'm on my Stormrider XXL or Laser SC).
post #12 of 13
Stockli makes some great skis. But the 170cm should be more then enough ski for you. My suggestion is for you take a lesson and learn how to get out of the back seat.

I'm 5'11" 185lbs when I skied my AX3's, I guaranty I ski faster then you. The AC3 or AC30's will do fine at speed as long as the pilot knows how to use the tool.

My buddy 160lbs 5' 10" skis the AC40 in 163 and has no problem keeping up with me.

IMO the AC line is skis is what you want.
post #13 of 13

AC 30

While the AC 3 is the same as the AC 30, the 3 Motion is a different ski.
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